IT Thread

[theholycow]

If it doesn't handle Vista then it won't handle 7.

[stonehenge]

:word: didn't mean to try 7, sounds like XP is the best choice. Or a Linux build but then people be confused.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

[MikeH]

If it were for me I would have put a small linux distro on it. I found an all in one driver tool so setting xp go only took a couple minutes.

[Cez★]

ok so this is what i have to do for my first programming assingment. due 9/11
Deliverables: After you create your application (test it and debug it), create an executable file. See FAQs file under the Information Tab on how to create an executable file in Visual Studio. Copy the code in your button event procedures in a document file. Submit both the executable file of your application and the document file with the source code.

sound easy? sounds like me mac can also handle it. thought id need to send the whole app or somthing

[stonehenge]

That doesn't say what you're actually creating but being your first assignment I doubt it will be hard.

[Cez★]

yea the instructions dont mention it :roflshrug: probably just something random/easy

[stonehenge]

Hello world.

[theholycow]

If you're just writing a Hello World, then the executable is the "whole app".

[Cez★]

Need to get book VS. Can has "buy" it? :secret:

[stonehenge]

They didn't have you get a book? :fp:

The Java classes I took had us buy some really useful books, happiest I've ever been spending the money. Math, english, etc books can eat a dicks.

[theholycow]

Yeah, programming books are often worth keeping...though possibly easier to "buy" than other books.

[stonehenge]

Yeah at the time I didn't mind buying it but I'm sure I could have "bought" it instead.

[Cez★]

Yea I do have a book to buy. Supposedly comes with a CD with software (can't verify because school store dont have one) so I may "buy" the software seperate

[stonehenge]

Whats the book/software called?

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http://i.imgur.com/mHJK6.jpg

:horyshet: :motherofgod: :yesss:

[theholycow]

:ohshit:

Those 8-bit video game cartridge style CPUs didn't hang around long. Too bad, they seemed gimmicky but were really pleasant to work with.

[Cez★]

I'll get title of it later at work

[stonehenge]

:ohshit:

Those 8-bit video game cartridge style CPUs didn't hang around long. Too bad, they seemed gimmicky but were really pleasant to work with.

:word:

I had one, I forget the speed. Maybe around 500-600mhz. Was easier to install than normal processors. Not that normal ones are hard but cartridge ftw :jester:

[JayBo]

Have 5 NEC projectors that are just barely out of warranty that have same problem. Pixels are disappearing in the projected image.

So now that NEC won't fix them, what are the options for projector repair??

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Also has to figure out how to run Office 2010 from server.. SOme new kinda Microsoft classroom bullshit. that came wint ZERO instructions

[stonehenge]

Sysadmin dgaf about projectors, can't help you there. :/

WTF is this office from server nonsense? BIWP imo

[theholycow]

We just replace projectors when they get like that. :blah:

Office from server sounds like app-V/Remote Desktop Virtualization Host.

[stonehenge]

fts tell them to just install office and quit making you do extra shit :cheeky:

[stonehenge]

http://www.citrix.com/English/NE/news/news.asp?newsID=2328309

tl;dr: 51% of survey respondents believe that stormy weather can interfere with cloud computing. :jester:

[theholycow]

TBH I don't care for the term except when it's used for things which were done locally until after the term came into use. Basically, to me, that mainly means Office applications and files, corporate email hosting, business stuff like that. Putting your photos on facebook doesn't count. Banking or shopping online don't count. These things have been done online for 15 years now.

Even where I think it's appropriate and convenient I still think it's annoying.

[stonehenge]

banking/shopping shouldnt count but i'd count uploading photos and whatnot because you are actually storing something "in the cloud" and same with the office stuff where you do things that used to be local but are now "in the cloud"

so mostly agree

[JayBo]

erryone watch this.
dYPbFyLH66k

yes, i posted it in Chat thread. Get off deez nuts.

[stonehenge]

Oh I thought you meant it was some sort of Office that runs on the server for them to use. :fp: you just meant setting it up to deploy from the server?

Just cleaned up janitor ladys computer. Was an old ass Dell she got from her grand daughter. No wifi, slow as shit. Removed some useless bloat & toolbars, turned off all the shadows, transitions, etc, ran Malwarebytes and removed 11 things, disabled some useless stuff that ran at startup.

Then she said her facebook was too big and she had to scroll left/right too much. Resolution was the lowest possible and there were 3 toolbars in IE, which resulted in very little visible webpage space. Upped the resolution (after showing it to her to make sure it wasn't too small since she be old) and removed all the toolbars.

She said she owes me and I told her not to worry about it, just bring me leftover tacos or some tamales around christmas or something :cheeky:

[JayBo]

I'd love for them to run it FROM the server.. like a damn dumb terminal. But, this is better than nothing I guess..

[theholycow]

:clap: :repz:

Awesome. It's all put together in one video.

Minor issues:

1. Under what credentials do startup scripts run? I bet local administrator. That user would not be part of the domain "authenticated users" group and would not have access to the files with the permissions he provided. Not sure what's up with that.

2. He made it seem like you can't have User and Computer settings in the same GPO. You can. You only need one GPO for that.

3. If you are using two GPOs, he did them in the wrong order. On a live network somebody could get the install GPO before the suppress recommended settings dialog GPO is up. Not a big deal, but might as well do it right.

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Oh I thought you meant it was some sort of Office that runs on the server for them to use. :fp: you just meant setting it up to deploy from the server?

:word:

What that video describes is called a push install or an unattended install. That's a form of installing from server, not running from server.

[stonehenge]

or software deployment or installing shit without leaving my desk. ftw

[JayBo]

Since these are all newer W7 machines, I decided to just deploy instead of trying to find a way to RUN from server.

[VmaxEngage]

Everytime I cold boot my comp, after I log in I hear this clicking noise about 7-8 times.

It sounds like the clicking noise IE makes opening pages n shit.

wtf?

[stonehenge]

i know the click you mean

but idk wtf would be making it...

just to be safe you could run a scan with malwarebytes or something. Could also check your startup items in msconfig to see if theres anything shady.

[theholycow]

Seen that plenty of times...I don't remember if I ever bothered figuring it out/fixing it. Probably some startup crap.

[stonehenge]

I think I had it happen once so I just turned off that sound in the sound settings LOL

[VmaxEngage]

:lol:


Yea, Ive done plenty of scans. its just annoying. hell i dont use IE so idk why it would make that noise. what startup file should i look for?

[stonehenge]

If you can't tell what it is by the name then good it and find out what it is.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

[VmaxEngage]

noU

[stonehenge]

*Google its

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

[VmaxEngage]

Google tits imo

[stonehenge]

K brb

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

[VmaxEngage]

:awwyeah:

[theholycow]

Does anybody remember when "download" didn't mean the same thing as "transfer" and was the antonym of "upload"? Am I the only one who is irritated by this?

[stonehenge]

I think technically that's still how it should be used (speedtest.net has upload/download speeds and whatnot) but yes, there have been a lot of ratards lately saying they are going to "download" something from their flash drive or "let me download it to dropbox".

:pissedoff: BITCH, YOU AREN'T DOWNLOADING UNLESS YOUR BRINGING IT DOWN FROM THE INTERWEBS

[theholycow]

Internet Explorer information bar that you get when you try to download something says a website is trying to download the file to your computer...the website is trying to upload it, you're trying to download it.
http://home.comcast.net/~SupportCD/Images/Infobar_ActiveX_Control.gif

[stonehenge]

Stupid fuckin IE...

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

[JayBo]

Heres something to tickle your brain.

I use OpenDNS right now for content filtering b/c our inline filter went dead. Anyhow, I sometimes want to bypass this BS b/c it slows me down, and I need to access some sites it blocks and you can't set up individual machines to be on a whitelist.

I change my DNS settings to the ISP's on my cpu. Bitch blazes on the internet. No problems.. UNTIL I want to Remote Desktop, etc within my internal network.
How can i set this thing to use the ISP's dns server settings, and still be able to access my internal IP/machine's?

Would just putting the addy of my DNS server in the secondary DNS place in the TCP/IP settings suffice?

[stonehenge]

Is this only going to happen on one computer? You could probably do two NICs. One for internal, one for the outside. :chin:

If you have an extra NIC laying around you could give it a try.

[JayBo]

Yep. Just one computer. Mine.
It had 2 NIC's in it, I removed one of them though and can't find it lol

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Also trying to set up with dual monitors too if I can find another vid card

[theholycow]

I change my DNS settings to the ISP's on my cpu. Bitch blazes on the internet. No problems.. UNTIL I want to Remote Desktop, etc within my internal network.
How can i set this thing to use the ISP's dns server settings, and still be able to access my internal IP/machine's?

Would just putting the addy of my DNS server in the secondary DNS place in the TCP/IP settings suffice?

This is a pain in the ass and there's no good answer. Secondary DNS doesn't get queried as long as primary DNS isn't broken; merely responding that no record was found won't cause it to check secondary. You either have to run your own internal DNS (which can then use OpenDNS as its upstream provider), use a hosts file, use WINS resolution (which basically means running a DNS), or use IP addresses instead of hostnames.

[stonehenge]

oh yeah just setup a hosts file to point to anything you need to RDP to. Unless you rdp to all your workstations then that could get tedious :blah:

[JayBo]

I guess I could just RDP to the Ip address. I only have 3 servers that I go into usually. just the network drives and shit I have mapped to them die when I swap DNS servers

[stonehenge]

yeah just map/rdp to the IP or add them to your hosts file if its only 3

[JayBo]

I've never used host file befo'

[stonehenge]

its in system32/drivers/etc just add your servers to the bottom

IP.IP.IP.IP datBox

or

IP.IP.IP.IP yaybo.sexmachine.orgz

then when you map/rdp/etc to "datBox" or "yaybo.sexmachine.orgz" it will send you to that IP. The hostname/server name that you specify doesn't even have to exist afaik, like the yaybo.sexmachine one.

[theholycow]

In case that wasn't clear:

1. Open c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts (no extension on the filename) in notepad.
Start -> Run -> notepad c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts

2. Add one line per host, formatted as follows:
192.168.0.69 sexmachine
192.168.0.169 moresexmachine.cows.com

3. Enjoy

[JayBo]

So it'd be 10.10.100.3 webster-admin. As an entry??

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

[stonehenge]

Yep, without the period at the end. Then hit enter and put the next ip and location

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

[JayBo]

random question.

when I save it, it wants me to save as txt file.
do this?

[stonehenge]

change it to "all files" and it should save without the extension

or go remove the extension after saving it

[JayBo]

says I no has permissions to save in that folder :rofl2:

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no computer will outsmart me

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Well, maybe it will.

[theholycow]

Run notepad as administrator.

Stupid UAC.

[JayBo]

worked like a champ.

it all works! :shake:

[stonehenge]

fgt UAC doesn't care if you're logged in as admin :nono: I always forget about that when I open command prompts. I open them normally like I did in XP but it runs as non-admin.

[JayBo]

I do too. Never fails.
Do wish shit was simple like XP was.

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Im quite curious.. I think the interview I have next Wed is for a Systems Admin II position. Which basically will put me doing mostly server stuff :uhoh:

[stonehenge]

bish ass servers

[JayBo]

Will have network all fkkd up in no time :cheeky2:

[stonehenge]

disable all file backups and get rid of those pesky battery backups too

[JayBo]

i had a UPS go bad one day. Just out of nowhere. Killed half of network!



has question.
I moved 30 workstations out to a mobile unit and made a lab out of it. It's NOT networked. Supt wants me to price server, switch and software to put out there to make standalone network. Kiddos would use the server based software to do things.

Dunno how mash the software costs, but wouldnt you have to buy 30 licenses for each program? And server cost AND switch cost. Guestimating, how mash you think that'd run? I'd need at least 3 diff programs.

or I could get a fiber ran out tehre and 30 drops put in WITH switch for $5200

[stonehenge]

it all depends on what you need. Some software would need 30 licenses, some needs one license, some has "check out" licenses so if there will never be all 30 using it, you can buy less, like 20. Every software company will have different prices/plans/etc. :shrug:

The server specs depend too. Does the software do lots of calculations or 3d stuff that will require lots of ram/processors? Will they be storing data on the server? If there will be data on it, do you want it to have an internal RAID, a RAID attached to it, or just an external or offsite place to copy it to? Rack mountable or desktop form?

Then there's lots of other stuff you can get. Most OEMs have things like Dell's iDrake which is REALLY handy for offsites. You can remote into the iDrake and watch it reboot, get into the BIOS, etc even if the OS won't boot or whatever. Kinda cool but more $.

So it all depends on what you really need brah.

[theholycow]

Yeah, that's way too open-ended of a question, really can't even begin to guess...could cost anywhere from $5,000 to $100,000.

Fiber, switch, and drops for $5200 sounds like a bargain, if you've got the server power to spare and don't need to isolate that network.

[JayBo]

I have no need to isolate that network. And I have PLENTY of server space to spare. I've swapped most of my critical apps (email/SIS) to cloud based already.

[stonehenge]

do you have a server that can handle whatever those three pieces of software are?

[JayBo]

Yessssss. I do.
I have 2 basically empty servers right now. I moved what was on them to cloud based.



on the other hand,

I'm looking for a decent, reliable projector in the $300-350 range. What do you guys use? I've been having problems out of my NEC and Viewsonic ones.

[stonehenge]

I be server gai, don't mess with projectors :emo:

[theholycow]

Me too, though occasionally I have to fiddle with them porke small IT department. I'm pretty sure some or all of ours are NEC.

[stonehenge]

Server room AC half-ass crapped out. Had to turn everything off. Let the complaint tickets flow.

Luckily it just froze over somehow. Shut it off for 30 mins and its blowing again. Waiting for it to cool down before turning everything back on.

POS

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

[theholycow]

Probably gonna freeze again, better get it fixed.

[stonehenge]

Asked the AC guy about that and he said even new ones can do that. The filter was really dirty (since they haven't dropped off a new one in a long time), its an 11yr old AC, and because this room sucks, it runs 24/7. Says nothing is broken.

:blah: we'll see

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

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I was just thinking "wow, no complaint tickets"

Ticket system was on a server we shut off to reduce heat

:trolldad:

[theholycow]

:fuckyeah:
:better:

[stonehenge]

need to turn that bish off more often :cheeky:

[theholycow]

Have two ESX hosts that aren't powered on. iLo "momentary press" isn't turning them on. Gotta actually walk IRL to the bricks-and-mortar server room and physically touch power button. :mexiblah:

[stonehenge]

was just telling other sever guy that we need to replace all servers with VMs and Dells w/ iDrake so we can stay home 3 days a week

[JayBo]

That means its low on freon probably wan

[stonehenge]

thats what i thought or moisture in the lines or something but AC dude was like "nah, that can happen to new ones. You guys let it run too much, its old, and the filter was dirty."

:blahclap:

[JayBo]

you tell him to stfu and recharge that bia

[stonehenge]

well idk tho because after it thawed out, it is now cooling better than it has in a LONG time

would need full freeon to cool that well, right? :chin:

[JayBo]

yah. filter prob diaf

[Cez★]

not really IT but mehbeh u gaiz can halp

so im trying to get the clear button to work on my latest project. cant get that shit to work no matter what any idears?

[stonehenge]

i don't have any VB experience but what is the button supposed to do?

[Cez★]

just clear out the text boxes input that anyone enters

this i supposed to do
XWQjCUVnK-c

[stonehenge]

can't help too much without seeing the code, even then idk if i'll be able to halp much since no vb experience. Did you set it up so pressing it changes the value of those fields?

[Cez★]

:wat:

[stonehenge]

Idk how VB works but you should have to tell it what to do when the button is pressed.

[theholycow]

It's been forever and I don't know the syntax at all anymore but the IIRC code for that button should look vaguely like
addEventListener button1.onclick(
textbox1.data = ""
textbox2.data = ""
textbox3.data = ""
textbox4.data = ""
)

Pretty simple. I think you can right-click the button and most of the code will get written for you, all you'll have to do is the textbox#.data = "" lines.

[Cez★]

i do wan. i type "maketext in box go away" or something along the lines. then i try to run it and would give me some error. fgts

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It's been forever and I don't know the syntax at all anymore but the IIRC code for that button should look vaguely like
addEventListener button1.onclick(
textbox1.data = ""
textbox2.data = ""
textbox3.data = ""
textbox4.data = ""
)

Pretty simple. I think you can right-click the button and most of the code will get written for you, all you'll have to do is the textbox#.data = "" lines.

interesting :skepticalblackkid: ill have to try that tomorrow

[stonehenge]

i type "maketext in box go away" or something along the lines.

WAt

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

[JayBo]

tried to do remote support session with lady at BOE office the other day. it failed miserably lol

[stonehenge]

with rdp or wat?

[JayBo]

RDP, or the remote assistance

[theholycow]

Anyone else using Sophos?
http://community.sophos.com/t5/Sophos-Endpoint-Protection/Is-any-one-else-seing-this-alert/td-p/29723
Fucking false positive update is detecting the Sophos updater as infected. :facepalm: Every fucking user! :picardpalm:

[stonehenge]

Rofl yes, techs be running around like sheekins w/o heads. We only had it on a few servers so I killed it. Didn't do anything.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

[stonehenge]

I get to fix it on all the computers in our office since all the techs are taking care of user computahs. :blahclap:

These are the instructions we are using:

A) Disable On-Access Scanning

1) Right-click the Sophos shield and select 'Open Sophos Anti-Virus'.

2) Click Configure (in the top menu)

3) Select Anti-Virus -> On-Access Scanning

4) remove the check from 'Enable on-access scanning for this computer

5) click Apply

B) Remove Items from Quaratine

1) Under Anti-virus and HIPS select 'Manage quarantine items'

2) Select the items marked as Updater-B virus

3) Click 'Clear from list'

4) confirm and apply

C) Update Sophos

1) Right-click the Sophos shield and select 'Update Now'

2) Confirm the System update Appears.


D) Check for javab-jd.ide

1) Right-click the Sophos shield and select 'Open Sophos Anti-Virus'.

2) Click 'View Product Information' <-- left hand column
*note there could be a long delay depending on computer

3) Find 'Detection Identities' in the list and confirm you see javab-jd.ide


E) Re-Enable On Access Scanning
(reverse from Step A)

F) Reboot

[theholycow]

If you can "Right-click the Sophos shield and select 'Open Sophos Anti-Virus'." then you don't need to do all that, just go to the Enterprise Console on the server, push updates, then clear alerts from there (which can be done en masse).

For the ones whose Sophos updater was broken by this bullshit, here's what I have to do:
1. Log on to affected computer (I'm using RDP)
2. Stop Sophos service
3. Delete quarantine.xml
4. Run ALMon.exe...NOW the Sophos shield is there.
5. Right-click shield, Update Now
6. Clear alerts and start Sophos
7. Hope
8. Reboot just for the hell of it

To make it easier I'm pasting most of it at a cmd prompt:
net stop SAVService
del /q /f "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Sophos\Sophos Anti-Virus\config\Quarantine.xml"
del /q /f "C:\ProgramData\Application Data\Sophos\Sophos Anti-Virus\config\Quarantine.xml"
"C:\Program Files\Sophos\AutoUpdate\ALMon.exe"
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Sophos\AutoUpdate\ALMon.exe"

{right-click shield, Update Now}

net start SAVService
shutdown /r /t 1

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Oh, and for uncooperative ones I add exclusions to the settings too.

[stonehenge]

The stuffs above worked on all the computers in the tech office here so I guess I got lucky.

Also, we don't have access to the server/console, that is maintained by the main IT peeps for the University. They pushed out the fixed update right when it was available but plenty of people already had all their stuffs quarantined. :pow:

[theholycow]

OIC. Should be main IT peeps' responsibility to fix from the server en masse those that can be fixed.

[stonehenge]

IDK what they've done on their end but I know that some computers were fine if you rebooted them, cleared the quarantine, and told sophos to update. Others needed the steps I posted above.

The only trouble I've heard that wasn't fixed by the above steps were some XP machines where Sophos completely hosed itself. Won't even uninstall or anything :roflpow:

[theholycow]

The only trouble I've heard that wasn't fixed by the above steps were some XP machines where Sophos completely hosed itself. Won't even uninstall or anything :roflpow:

My instructions should fix it. If not, check this:
http://www.sophos.com/en-us/support/knowledgebase/118311.aspx
Reprotect the endpoint from the Enterprise Console. If this fails:
Copy the contents of the SAU folder from the distribution location established above to the local cache folder.
For example \\SERVERNAME\SophosUpdate\CIDs\S000\SAVSCFXP\SAU\ to C:\ProgramData\Sophos\AutoUpdate\Cache\sau (path may vary according to your operating system).
Attempt a reprotect of the client again.

If THAT fails, try this:
http://www.sophos.com/en-us/support/knowledgebase/118315.aspx

[stonehenge]

I think they already figured it out on their own (the few techs that had problems on XP boxes). If not, I'll pass your instructions on to them :shake:

[theholycow]

I've got one bastard motherfucker of a computer that isn't breaking itself but is detecting the false positive repeatedly despite being up-to-date.
:ffuuu:

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...but it doesn't show on the computer, just in the fucking Enterprise Console.
:ffuuu2:

[stonehenge]

fts

format dat bish, tell user that HD failed

:cheeky:

[theholycow]

FTS DNW, that's a lot of work.

Seems to be cooperating now.

[stonehenge]

I just turned my (Mac) computer on, and it says that my wireless keyboard is low on batteries. How do I fix this? Thanks!

:sacfp:

NEW BATTERIES

[Cez★]

:derp:

[theholycow]

Are you seeing any MadCodeHook detections along with the Shh/Updater-B?

[stonehenge]

I only looked at the computers here in the IT offices and all I saw were Updaters. Except for the Chinese guy who had a couple adware things from some chinese program he installed to talk to family. :jester:

[shootermcgavin003]

cao how good are you at writing programs c++. planning a carputer wanting to do a small dot matrix readout on the dash for when i dont want to run a monitor. basically i will be using lcd smartie to run it but i need a few plugins wrote for it i may need someone with more experience than me to do it cause i know very little about writing programs.

[theholycow]

:jester: No good at all. I aced the courses in community college ten years ago but forgot the little bit I knew back then.

[shootermcgavin003]

fuck ive never had any formal training in the shit and cant remember any thing about it what little ive read about. guess ill find a book and read. :fts:

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anyhow my plan is to have something like the secret audio head units and all ill have is a few buttons and small lcd readout that i can hide or mount where ever so i dont have to hack up the dash on my old cars. but when i choose i can plug in a touch screen via usb and use like gps suction cup or what have you or remote desktop a tablet and use it thus giving me the same features of a high quality double din touchscreen. why oem manufacturers havent built something like this blows my mind. for some reason they think people still want disk drives. i havent put a cd or dvd in the slot of my truck in years.

[theholycow]

That's a cool idea. It's not completely ignored by manufacturers but nobody takes it quite that far.

A few years ago I remember JC Whitney had some stereos that look old school but reveal modern functionality, they might have USB...probably no GPS or touchscreen though.

[shootermcgavin003]

custom auto sound has no bluetooth neither does all the marine radios. also no gps. kenwood does make something but it cost like 3 times what its worth. plus with my idea when the monitor is not docked your going to have a control panel and screen about the size of a ipod nano. plus i could still use a remote or steering wheel controls.

[JayBo]

Check this out man..


http://www.retrosoundusa.com/?gclid=CO2wyr2XzrICFQsFnQodklcAGw

Crutchfield sells these IIRC

[shootermcgavin003]

no bluetooth or gps thats the units me and cow mentioned. i know i can put it in the aux port but then it wont go to the phone when i get a call or gps wont talk over my music when im using it and lasty the remote wont control the bluetooth or gps apsect any.

[JayBo]

so basically, you need to get a headunit that you like the features of, take the faceplate off and disassemble it, extend display wires to wheever you want mounted, and extend wires to buttons you want functionality of. And mount the IR eye for the remote.

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I've seen a sony thats been done like that. Was 3 buttons in the dash of the car that looked oem. Display was mounted in rearview mirror, covered w mirror tint so you couldn't see when not in operation, but would shine through when on.

[shootermcgavin003]

be hard to do with a navigation unit

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plus that eliminates being able to not use the screen and still have radio

[stonehenge]

Nhb not so hb

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

[shootermcgavin003]

lol y is that

[stonehenge]

You put on a front like "I are hillbilly with 500 old cars in driveway and don't know how to type correctly" but in reality are smart gai with crafty ideas.

[shootermcgavin003]

i do have a bunch old cars and cant type for shit though (i can type if im not doing 50 things). however i am good with computers and anything mechanical. however i choose to have the old cars.

[theholycow]

Fucking Powersmell. Does anyone know this shit? I have a script that's worked fine since 2009 to import users from a CSV. Now when I run it, it says the array is null.

# Create new accounts from CSV file
param($file = $args[0],
$LogFile = 'c:\utils\students\Students2009.log'
)

[array]$csv = import-csv $file

# This script implies that columns "Name" and "ParentContainer" exist in the csv file
if (($csv[0].Name -eq $null) -or ($csv[0].ParentContainer -eq $null) ) {throw "Parameter missing... Make sure the CSV file has at least the following columns: Name, ParentContainer."}

Output:
Cannot index into a null array.
At C:\utils\students\import-ad-users.ps1:8 char:11
+ if (($csv[ <<<< 0].Name -eq $null) -or ($csv[0].ParentContainer -eq $null) ) {throw "Parameter missing... Make sure
the CSV file has at least the following columns: Name, ParentContainer."}
+ CategoryInfo : InvalidOperation: (0:Int32) [], RuntimeException
+ FullyQualifiedErrorId : NullArray

[stonehenge]

and the file you're feeding it isn't empty and is formatted right?

idk if that would even throw that error... haven't messed with powersmell

[theholycow]

What the motherfucking fuck, I was fucking around and got it to work...

[shootermcgavin003]

never fooled with it

[theholycow]

Found the problem...boss used his Mac to make the CSV and the CR/LF situation was all fucked up.

[stonehenge]

Yeah we've had problems with that in the past. Windows and Unix/OSX aren't always friendly with their formatting, even when it seems like a simple basic-format file. fgtry

[stonehenge]

FIDIL restart services that disconnect all users from one of our DCs

:umad:

[JayBo]

i hate windows updates that require server restart

[stonehenge]

just tell that bish to reboot at 2am

[JayBo]

yah. can do dat. I just FIDIL and laugh at users

[stonehenge]

thats always fun :happy:

[JayBo]

" OMGOMGOMG the internet doesn't work!!!""

"hehehe Dns server down GFYS!!"

[theholycow]

Student brought in laptop, wouldn't boot, no display, wouldn't even flash the screen, even if I plug in an external screen. Opened it up and saw this:
http://i.imgur.com/bugt7.jpg
:scared:
I thought it was missing its video card and wondered if this was some kind of trick to blame me for it.

Don't know what that is, probably some kind of wireless communications card, but after removing the BIOS battery to clear BIOS, it works fine.

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Just realized dude has an Apple sticker on top of the Dell logo.
:lol:

[stonehenge]

Dell StudioBook Pro Air? :wat:

not positive but i think those are wireless antennas, they just fell out of that little channel they are supposed to be tucked into

[theholycow]

There's also the matter of the card slot that's not filled, there would be a card on top of that black plastic stuff.

[stonehenge]

Ah, I thought the plastic was covering the card. So I guess that's a model w/o wifi?

[theholycow]

Wifi card is the little one to the left of the blank spot, with the black and white antenna wires going to it.

There is a SIM card slot in the battery compartment. I think the missing card here is a mobile data card.

[stonehenge]

it's obviously missing the card that allowed it to connect to wireless Pans. How else can you cook stuffs w/o fgt wires

[theholycow]

PAN = Pen0r Area Network?

[stonehenge]

could be :chin: so that is a non-ghey male laptop that doesn't need to interface w/ any pen0rs in the area

but shouldn't there be some sort of vag area network card? :uhoh:

foreveralone lappy

[theholycow]

The "Cable Caster":
http://www.klauke.com/fileadmin/bilder/cablecaster.jpg

It's a dart gun with a fishing reel. You shoot it, tie your Cat5 or pull string onto the dart, then reel it in.
:wwaanntt:

[stonehenge]

sounds fun :happy:

[shootermcgavin003]

im batman

[theholycow]

No, I'm Batman.

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/im-the-batman-full.jpg

[shootermcgavin003]

i hate that picture

http://witneyman.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/batman-bomb.jpg

[theholycow]

No, I hate that picture!

[IMG]Kermit De Frog holding fake-ass cartoon bomb above his head while constipated[IMG]

[theholycow]

Sometimes I wonder if maybe I'm not doing a good enough job. Am I professional enough? Am I protecting my users from downtime and data loss enough?

http://www22.verizon.com/Support/Residential/Internet/fiosinternet/general+support/top+questions/130288.htm?CMP=DMC-CVZ_ZZ_ZZ_Z_ZZ_N_Z123

On Monday morning, October 1, Verizon experienced a service disruption that affected email for some of our customers. Customers now are able to send and receive email normally and will continue to have access to their calendar and address book. However, until the issue is resolved, it will not be possible to see any email sent or received along with personal folders created prior to this service interruption. We’re working to recover any email and folders that cannot be seen at this time.



Customers that regularly use a POP email client such as Microsoft Outlook, Yahoo or Mac Mail will not notice any adverse impact outside of the temporary inability earlier today to connect to your servers.

...then sometimes I see that even the hugest companies in the world make mistakes too.

In other news, I know a better way to merge two Exchange/Outlook calendars than the answers that Google provides. Google it and you'll get Microsoft pages and forum posts saying to export the calendar and then import it. There IS a better, faster way.

Instead, click the View ribbon, and the first button on the left is "Change View". Click that and choose "List". Now your calendar is displayed as a folder full of items. Click any one, Ctrl+A to select all, right-drag to destination calendar, choose Copy or Move from the context menu. Celebrate.

[Cez★]

halp? trying to figure out why this shit wont calculate right. it does the first two examples right but the other two i get bad numbers :blah:

Select Case decTxtWeight

Case Is <= 2
decMileageCost = 0.01D

Case Is > 2 And CInt(decTxtWeight <= 6)
decMileageCost = 0.015D

Case Is > 6 And CInt(decTxtWeight <= 10)
decMileageCost = 0.02D

Case Is > 10 And CInt(decTxtWeight <= 20)
decMileageCost = 0.025D
End Select


decTxtCharge = decMileageCost * decTxtDistance
TxtCharge.Text = Format(decTxtCharge, "0.00")

not sure wtf is wrong if two work and the other two dont

example numbers are
1.5 Kgs and 100 miles (total should equal to $1.00)
5 Kgs and 200 miles (total should equal to $3.00)
8 Kgs and 750 miles (total should equal to $15.00) I get $11.25
15 Kgs and 2000 miles (total should equal to $50.00) I get $30.00

[theholycow]

Desk-checking that with my vague ability to remember anything about programming, your code looks like it should work.

Have you checked the value of each variable, all along the way? Your IDE may provide ways to do this, but I would usually insert an output and pause (dialog box in a GUI program or print and input prompt in CLI) between each operation, showing me current position and each variable that's in play.

Here's your code with some pseudocode to demonstrate what I'm talking about:
Select Case decTxtWeight

Case Is <= 2
decMileageCost = 0.01D
dialogue("Case <=2; decMileageCost = " + decMileageCost + "; decTxtWeight = " + decTxtWeight)

Case Is > 2 And CInt(decTxtWeight <= 6)
decMileageCost = 0.015D
dialogue("Case >2; decMileageCost = " + decMileageCost + "; decTxtWeight = " + decTxtWeight)

Case Is > 6 And CInt(decTxtWeight <= 10)
decMileageCost = 0.02D
dialogue("Case >6; decMileageCost = " + decMileageCost + "; decTxtWeight = " + decTxtWeight)

Case Is > 10 And CInt(decTxtWeight <= 20)
decMileageCost = 0.025D
dialogue("Case >10; decMileageCost = " + decMileageCost + "; decTxtWeight = " + decTxtWeight)
End Select

dialogue("Case ended; decMileageCost = " + decMileageCost + "; decTxtWeight = " + decTxtWeight)

dialogue("decTxtDistance = " + decTxtDistance)
decTxtCharge = decMileageCost * decTxtDistance
dialogue("decTxtCharge = " + decTxtCharge + "decMileageCost = " + decMileageCost "; decTxtDistance = " + decTxtDistance)
TxtCharge.Text = Format(decTxtCharge, "0.00")

When you do that, you will know exactly which line is broken.

Some other comments:

Is it necessary to convert to integer for the second condition in each case? If so, why is it not necessary to convert to integer for the first condition?

Is the second condition even necessary? Some languages may process the entire Select before making a decision, some may drop out of the Select on the first match.

For languages that drop out, a better design might be to reverse the order of cases. Start with Case Is > 10, then do Case Is > 6, etc. Or, you could work entirely with < instead of >, so the second one would be Case Is <=6.
For languages that process the entire Select, the strategy is similar but reversed; keep the cases in the same order and reverse the operator or reverse the order and keep the operator. It will change the value of the variable multiple times if it goes through the entire list, but it's still fewer CPU cycles than all those extra tests.

The unnecessary extra operations not only waste CPU cycles, but they also make your code unnecessarily complex to keep bug-free and to debug once you're aware of a bug.

Also, you're missing a catch-all for when decTxtWeight is over 20. In a real-life situation you'd have a catch-all for all decTxtWeight values not covered by the Select, and usually you'd skip the last Case and let the catch-all handle it

[stonehenge]

Make catch all that pops up a message saying "over 20? Gooby pls."

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

[Cez★]

Desk-checking that with my vague ability to remember anything about programming, your code looks like it should work.

Have you checked the value of each variable, all along the way? Your IDE may provide ways to do this, but I would usually insert an output and pause (dialog box in a GUI program or print and input prompt in CLI) between each operation, showing me current position and each variable that's in play.

Here's your code with some pseudocode to demonstrate what I'm talking about:
Select Case decTxtWeight

Case Is <= 2
decMileageCost = 0.01D
dialogue("Case <=2; decMileageCost = " + decMileageCost + "; decTxtWeight = " + decTxtWeight)

Case Is > 2 And CInt(decTxtWeight <= 6)
decMileageCost = 0.015D
dialogue("Case >2; decMileageCost = " + decMileageCost + "; decTxtWeight = " + decTxtWeight)

Case Is > 6 And CInt(decTxtWeight <= 10)
decMileageCost = 0.02D
dialogue("Case >6; decMileageCost = " + decMileageCost + "; decTxtWeight = " + decTxtWeight)

Case Is > 10 And CInt(decTxtWeight <= 20)
decMileageCost = 0.025D
dialogue("Case >10; decMileageCost = " + decMileageCost + "; decTxtWeight = " + decTxtWeight)
End Select

dialogue("Case ended; decMileageCost = " + decMileageCost + "; decTxtWeight = " + decTxtWeight)

dialogue("decTxtDistance = " + decTxtDistance)
decTxtCharge = decMileageCost * decTxtDistance
dialogue("decTxtCharge = " + decTxtCharge + "decMileageCost = " + decMileageCost "; decTxtDistance = " + decTxtDistance)
TxtCharge.Text = Format(decTxtCharge, "0.00")

When you do that, you will know exactly which line is broken.

Some other comments:

Is it necessary to convert to integer for the second condition in each case? If so, why is it not necessary to convert to integer for the first condition?

Is the second condition even necessary? Some languages may process the entire Select before making a decision, some may drop out of the Select on the first match.

For languages that drop out, a better design might be to reverse the order of cases. Start with Case Is > 10, then do Case Is > 6, etc. Or, you could work entirely with < instead of >, so the second one would be Case Is <=6.
For languages that process the entire Select, the strategy is similar but reversed; keep the cases in the same order and reverse the operator or reverse the order and keep the operator. It will change the value of the variable multiple times if it goes through the entire list, but it's still fewer CPU cycles than all those extra tests.

The unnecessary extra operations not only waste CPU cycles, but they also make your code unnecessarily complex to keep bug-free and to debug once you're aware of a bug.

Also, you're missing a catch-all for when decTxtWeight is over 20. In a real-life situation you'd have a catch-all for all decTxtWeight values not covered by the Select, and usually you'd skip the last Case and let the catch-all handle it

:towelie:

idk why i should make the first convert to an integer if it works :roflshrug:

what second condition are ye talking aboot?

[theholycow]

So I don't know why and you don't know why...how did the CInt get there?

The second condition is "And CInt(decTxtWeight blah blah blah". The first condition is "Case Is > number".

Wait a minute, I may have found the problem.
"CInt(decTxtWeight <= 6)"
If you take CInt out of that, the value of (decTxtWeight <= 6) is boolean, isn't it? I think what you were trying to do (though I don't know why) is "CInt(decTxtWeight) <= 6" (substitute other numbers in other cases).

[Cez★]

internet :shrug:

i thought the cint was kinda like "do this with this number if its greater than interger entered"

and ill remove that Cint @ home since i no bring lappy

[theholycow]

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn176/Master_Steff1000/Lol-InternetMamaLuigi.gif

[Cez★]

:redturtleshell:

[theholycow]

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/423820/integer-parse-vs-cint
"So in short, CInt does much more than convert a string to an integer, e.g. applying specific rounding rules to fractions, short circuting unecessary conversions etc."

[JayBo]

Ordered toner..

for wrong printer :fp:

[stonehenge]

:sacfp:

[Cez★]

cao. wont run without the Cint

says "expression is not an array or method, and cannot have an argument list"

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ok so just now i hhad removed the "and Cint" this time i removed "Cint" only. now it tells me "option strict on disallows implicit conversions from boolean to integer"

[theholycow]

Ok, that kinda makes sense, it's looking for an integer value and the test on the right is boolean. However, converting it to an integer doesn't make it into good logic. Boolean means true/false; when you convert it to an integer you get 1 or 0. So, a statement like this:
Case Is > 2 And CInt(decTxtWeight <= 6)
really means
Case Is > 2 And 0
or
Case Is > 2 And 1
depending on decTxtWeight.

I think you need to get rid of the "And" and everything to its right, then you may need to repair the logic.

[Cez★]

i get the "expression is not an array or method and cannot have an argument list" again

[theholycow]

:think: What language is it?

Why does the first case not return any errors without the crap on the right but the rest need crap on the right?

[Cez★]

idk and thats whats pising me off :ffuuu:



language = english :uhohshrug:


tehre some VB site i can ax for halp?

[theholycow]

So it's VB? VB.net, I assume?

[Cez★]

visual basic.


whys that site in doitch

[theholycow]

:facepalm:

I'm asking if it's VB.net, not suggesting you go to a site whose address is VB.net.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_Basic_.NET

[Cez★]

:cheeky: :pow:

yea vb.net

[theholycow]

You don't get anywhere in programming by guessing and being vague. When programming you need to know exactly what you're trying to say and you need to be explicit and detailed. This is true in code, and it's true when asking for help.

Ok, so in VB.net the select case construct can be used with a keyword "to".
http://www.homeandlearn.co.uk/net/nets1p21.html
Select Case agerange

Case 16 To 21
MsgBox “Still Young”
Case 50 To 64
MsgBox “Start Lying”

End Select

You gotta get rid of that mangled shit.

[Cez★]

what mangled shit? also when i replace "and Cint" with "to" it says end of statement expected

[theholycow]

I'm thinking replace
Case Is > 2 And CInt(decTxtWeight <= 6)
with
Case 2 to 6

[Cez★]

wont execute. get the same end of statement expected thing. what would be the end statement? from? :roflcrazy:

[stonehenge]

:towelie:

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

[Cez★]

so theres a section that uses the "to" code and it goes like this

select case intScore

case is >=90
strGrade = "A"
case 80 to 89
strGrade = "B"
case 70 to 79
strGrade = "C"
Case 60 to 69
strGrade = "D"
Case 0 to 59
strGrade = "F"
Case Else
Messagebox.Show("Invalid Score")

[stonehenge]

since I've only dealt with java, feels weird not seeing { and } and ; separating things :uhoh:

[Cez★]

:happy: :security: :datass: :pimp2: :clap: :droid: :pepperjest: :high5fap: :datbadonkadonk: :turbohumping: :caoshake: :nerd: :partyparrot: :cheekydance::eseculo: :bitchin::animefuckyeah: :richboy: :mbpawwyeah: :hng: :skeet: :bbh: :kittawwyeah: :korkawwyeah: :happeh: :moogusta:

---------- Post added at 08:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:19 PM ----------

http://allassistedlivinghomes.com/assisted-living-news/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/good_news_everyone.png

I FUKKEN GOT IT

[theholycow]

So did you try your original code with debugging dialogues as I suggested? You'll need to turn my pseudocode into real code by looking up the way to use msgbox().

---------- Post added at 09:21 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:20 PM ----------

Oh, nevermind, you got it.

[Cez★]

yea. you was on right track with the "to" i think i hadnt fixed the code enough with the "to" to run smoothly. lemme copy it over from parallels

---------- Post added at 08:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:26 PM ----------


Select Case decTxtWeight

Case Is <= 2
decMileageCost = 0.01D

Case 2 To 6
decMileageCost = 0.015D

Case 6 To 10
decMileageCost = 0.02D

Case 10 To 20
decMileageCost = 0.025D
End Select


i had left most of it with "case is 10 to 20" and similar and wouldnt execute. ran it fixed and enterd all my example values and teh results match

[theholycow]

I figured the "is" had to go if you wanted to use "to". That whole bullshit with the way it was before looked like 10 pounds of shit in a 5 pound bag.

Now, there is a minor logic error that will probably get you marked down a couple points.
Case 2 To 6
decMileageCost = 0.015D

Case 6 To 10
decMileageCost = 0.02D

If it's 6, it could match both of those statements. There will probably be a predictable, consistent result, but it's still sloppy enough for the teacher to mark off. (Same problem with 2 and 10.) That is, unless VB.net is smart enough to handle that situation officially properly.

[Cez★]

should i change the 2nd 2 to 3, the 6 to 7 and 10 to 11?

[theholycow]

Is the input guaranteed to be an integer? If not, are you allowed to convert it to an integer? That's where you could use CInt...

[Cez★]

no. i got a 1.5 in there.

[stonehenge]

Will teacher be a doosh and enter a negative number or letter or something?

Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk 2

[Cez★]

wont matter. if he did a check is in place to bring up a pop up box saying it cant be less than zero

[stonehenge]

Ok cool

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

[stonehenge]

I didn't realize that even back in 99, peeps creamed themselves when Apple announced things.

cdpRSj7tLiY

its beautiful :whoa: has handle :whoa:

[shootermcgavin003]

fuck yeah and it sucked use one back then worse than now.

[stonehenge]

chkdsk you my only frand

[stonehenge]

can get w8 thru work. Gonna put it on craptop and see if I can bypass as much Metro UI as possible :nono:

[stonehenge]

installed W8 Pro this morning:

http://i.imgur.com/JvCJP.jpg

So far I have found the Metro shit annoying in a couple ways and not annoying in a couple ways.

It still functions roughly the same as a Start Menu for the way I use the Start Menu. I rarely navigate the start Menu on W7. I just hit the Windows key and type what I want then choose it from the list that comes up. The new Metro UI works the same way so I'm okay with it in that respect. Clicking "Desktop" takes you to the normal Windows UI (sans start menu) so normal usage hasn't changed much if you don't play with the Metro Apps.

The annoying parts... hitting the Windows key again doesn't hide Metro, either does the escape key. You have to click the Desktop tile every time, unless I'm missing a hotkey. Also, to shut down you have to hit the Windows key, move your mouse to the corner, click settings, click Power, then click Shutdown/Restart/Sleep. Way too many steps for that.

So far I have disabled the lockscreen at boot so it goes straight to the login window and I setup a bat file that will automatically jump to the Desktop after booting up so it doesn't go straight to Metro after logging in.

Must play with this shit more but definitely not putting this on my Desktop anytime soon.

[theholycow]

It's 2012, there's another version of Windows, and we still have to fix it using the same old DOS .BAT files.

[stonehenge]

bat files ftw

[theholycow]

:word:

[shootermcgavin003]

id go straight linux if it was feasable

[stonehenge]

doubt i'll ever go linux on the desktop, gosta have my games

i can deal with linux replacements of most programs but games suck on linux

[shootermcgavin003]

Thats me too

[theholycow]

Gaming
:bishplz:

[JayBo]

is W8 SOOOO much better than W7? B/c I'm quite fucking happy with W7 ultimate

[stonehenge]

rofl no, I only installed it on the craptop to try it out. So far I've heard nothing about W8 that makes it something I want to use regularly. Underneath the Metro crap I think it's essentially W7 (with a few changes I'm sure) so I don't really see any reason that you would NEED to upgrade. Especially in a business situation. I know we don't want all our users having Metro and Tiles and no start menu and shit. Just more crap for them to be confused about.

[JayBo]

I'm just now getting the last of my XP machines weeded out and replaced with W7. while XP is awesome, i've found 7 to be just as reliable. and way more user friendly to IT peeps

[stonehenge]

W9 should be awesome if Microsoft keeps up with their pattern

W95 - meh
W98 - win
WME - plz go
WXP - win
Vista - ghey
W7 - win
W8 - metroghey
W9 - win?

[theholycow]

MS-DOS 1-3: Wha?
MS-DOS 3.3: Supposedly good.
MS-DOS 4: Wha?
MS-DOS 5.0: It fucking worked. Rock solid. No bullshit. Fast as a motherfucker.
MS-DOS 6.0: :nono:
MS-DOS 6.2: Good stuff.
MS-DOS 6.22: Good 'nuff.

Windows 1.0, 2.0: Wha?
Windows 3.0: Oh herro!
Windows 3.1: :hmm: Improvements.
Windows for Workgroups 3.11: :hmm: More improvements.
Windows 95: Misunderstood, but the real problem is the market wasn't ready. Piece of shit by today's standards, sure...same for 98.
Windows 98: Mild improvements to product, market was ready this time.
Windows ME: Imperceptibly different from Windows 98 apart from some eye candy, added utilities, and slightly better hiding of its DOS chassis, yet is somehow the red-headed stepchild.
Windows NT 3.x: In my small amount of experience, trash...yet somehow it eventually evolved into Windows XP.
Windows 2000: Really didn't catch on, I never used it, but supposedly decent.
Windows XP in the beginning: Trash...but nobody remembers, because:
Windows XP service packs: Bang-up job, MS. Too bad you'll never pull it off again.
Windows Server 2003: XP, in server form.
Windows Vista: The hardware wasn't ready for it, the software wasn't ready for it, and Microsoft made some bad default settings. They also mangled the previously very good Windows Explorer file manager.
Windows Server 2008: Vista, in server form. Quite good. Somehow the crap that is too user-friendlyified doesn't interfere with running a server, and the underpinning OS makes a good server.
Windows 7: Vista service pack. "Oh shit guys, the market hates Vista. At least the hardware is ready now. Let's change the default setting for Aero, fuck up printer management, apply some lipstick, give the whole thing a new name, and not release the update for existing licenses. They want to hate Vista, fine, fuck them for badmouthing us, they can buy 7 instead of getting it as a service pack."
Windows Server 2008R2: 7, in server form. It'd be fine except for that damnfool printer properties thing.

Windows 8 and Windows Server 2012: Sounds like a piece of shit.
Windows 9: Gonna suck.

[stonehenge]

MS-DOS 1-3: Wha?
MS-DOS 3.3: Supposedly good.
MS-DOS 4: Wha?
MS-DOS 5.0: It fucking worked. Rock solid. No bullshit. Fast as a motherfucker.
MS-DOS 6.0: :nono:
MS-DOS 6.2: Good stuff.
MS-DOS 6.22: Good 'nuff.
Windows 1.0, 2.0: Wha?
Windows 3.0: Oh herro!
Windows 3.1: :hmm: Improvements.
Windows for Workgroups 3.11: :hmm: More improvements.

Yeah I decided to ignore those :roflshrug: I think the earliest I used was 3.1 (Windows wise), I used DOS before that.



Windows 95: Misunderstood, but the real problem is the market wasn't ready. Piece of shit by today's standards, sure...same for 98.
Windows 98: Mild improvements to product, market was ready this time.
Windows ME: Imperceptibly different from Windows 98 apart from some eye candy, added utilities, and slightly better hiding of its DOS chassis, yet is somehow the red-headed stepchild.
W98 added USB and some other goodies, seemed like it was used longer than 95 and was more stable. Maybe it was placebo tho :shrug:

Every time I ran into WinME, it was a POS. Didn't feel stable at all. Looks wise it was W95/98 but they did something behind the scenes that made it behave like shit, at least in the experiences I had.



Windows NT 3.x: In my small amount of experience, trash...yet somehow it eventually evolved into Windows XP.
Windows 2000: Really didn't catch on, I never used it, but supposedly decent.
meh, I dont' remember either one being very widely used by consumers, but idk, I know I went from W98 to XP and dgaf about anything in between except for POS ME that I had experience with unfortunately.


Windows XP in the beginning: Trash...but nobody remembers, because:
Windows XP service packs: Bang-up job, MS. Too bad you'll never pull it off again.

I know that when XP came out it was shunned because W98 stuff didn't work on it and I'm sure it was all Vista-ish until the service packs made it W7-ish but I didn't use it until after everyone started liking it :jester: I waited and wasn't in IT or anything so didn't have to mess with it before I upgraded on my own.


Windows Vista: The hardware wasn't ready for it, the software wasn't ready for it, and Microsoft made some bad default settings. They also mangled the previously very good Windows Explorer file manager.
Windows 7: Vista service pack. "Oh shit guys, the market hates Vista. At least the hardware is ready now. Let's change the default setting for Aero, fuck up printer management, apply some lipstick, give the whole thing a new name, and not release the update for existing licenses. They want to hate Vista, fine, fuck them for badmouthing us, they can buy 7 instead of getting it as a service pack."
:jester: I'll agree with that. W7 = Vista that works like it should have at launch, shouldn't have been a whole new release, should have been an update. Still feel bad for anyone who PAID for Vista :roflsad:



Windows 8 and Windows Server 2012: Sounds like a piece of shit.
Windows 9: Gonna suck.

W8 seems fine from a stability point (since it's probably W7 underneath) but the new shit they added that fucks with the start menu is retarded. Windows IS the start menu... "click start" = first step in all directions.

Fuck that lets replace it with a fullscreen menu w/ fgty tiles everywhere :happy:

W9: will probably suck since they won't get rid of the tile shit :blah:

Haven't used or looked into Server 2012 yet, I wonder if it has a start menu or something else instead of the stupid tiles. I see no use whatsoever for the tile interface on a server. Seems even more ratard/useless than putting it on laptops/desktops.

The only place the tile interface makes any sense at all is on a touchscreen imo.

[theholycow]

Every time I ran into WinME, it was a POS. Didn't feel stable at all. Looks wise it was W95/98 but they did something behind the scenes that made it behave like shit, at least in the experiences I had.

I used it on plenty of machines, it was exactly as functional as W98.

meh, I dont' remember either one being very widely used by consumers, but idk, I know I went from W98 to XP and dgaf about anything in between except for POS ME that I had experience with unfortunately.

NT wasn't used by home users, just for servers in IT. A place I worked in IT had one running Lotus cc:Mail...it crashed all the damn time and ran like crap.

W8 seems fine from a stability point (since it's probably W7 underneath) but the new shit they added that fucks with the start menu is retarded. Windows IS the start menu... "click start" = first step in all directions.

Fuck that lets replace it with a fullscreen menu w/ fgty tiles everywhere :happy:

That's the Microsoft Way. As long as you hitch your wagon to Microsoft they're going to occasionally destroy your anus and replace it with Folger's crystals. Sometimes it works out ok, sometimes not.

Don't you remember the same thing with Windows 95 and the Start menu replacing Program Mangler? That worked out ok. More recently, they decided that in Orifice we shouldn't be allowed to have a menu bar so they replaced it with the ribbon. Fucking thing sucks.

Haven't used or looked into Server 2012 yet, I wonder if it has a start menu or something else instead of the stupid tiles. I see no use whatsoever for the tile interface on a server. Seems even more ratard/useless than putting it on laptops/desktops.
I imagine it's W8 server edition...just like 2008 is Vista server edition.

[stonehenge]

I used it on plenty of machines, it was exactly as functional as W98.
I must have been unlucky then :emo:

NT wasn't used by home users, just for servers in IT. A place I worked in IT had one running Lotus cc:Mail...it crashed all the damn time and ran like crap.
Yeah, the first department I worked in had an NT4 DC. Was a POS.

That's the Microsoft Way. As long as you hitch your wagon to Microsoft they're going to occasionally destroy your anus and replace it with Folger's crystals. Sometimes it works out ok, sometimes not.

Don't you remember the same thing with Windows 95 and the Start menu replacing Program Mangler? That worked out ok. More recently, they decided that in Orifice we shouldn't be allowed to have a menu bar so they replaced it with the ribbon. Fucking thing sucks.
We'z all doomed

I imagine it's W8 server edition...just like 2008 is Vista server edition.

That's what I'm afraid of... and expect.

[shootermcgavin003]

nt was solid as hell for its time cao

[theholycow]

Compared to what?

The AIX database server at the same place was solid as hell.

[shootermcgavin003]

compared to win 95 and 98 it was much more solid

[theholycow]

Ok so I've asked this before but I'm asking it again. What are you doing for backup?

I've really had enough of Symantec BackupExec. It's simply a turd. It never works for long and it never provides useful error messages. It provides the same error almost every time, which could mean any of thousands of problems (literally!) and has certainly meant plenty of different totally unrelated problems for me.

[stonehenge]

on windows boxes were just doing robocopy with scripts/scheduled tasks and on linux boxes were using rsync.

also using shadowcopy on the windows fileserver data drives to make recovering deleted/changed files easier, although the shadow copies aren't backed up by robocopy, just the live data.

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a program like backup exec makes things "easier" since you have it all in one place and no scripts to mess with or logs to keep track of in several places, but yeah we've used it in the past and hated it

[theholycow]

A program like BackupExec makes it easier..."like". ;)

Yeah, we really need a modern professional style system with support and a good interface. I would actually prefer just using a scheme like that most of the time.

[stonehenge]

Main sysadmin takes care of all the rsync shenanigans (although I watch the logs for our main DC) and I take care of all the robocopy stuff.

Trying to figure out why backing up one share is giving me errors that make no sense even though the script is exactly like all the others that are working :blahclap:

[JayBo]

AC unit in my main server room is toast today. Walked by and heard all the fans screaming...

[stonehenge]

turn off everything and go home

[race2c]

Hey IT folks I would to ask for some VBA/excel help.

Here is the background.

2 spreadsheets

1 containing a list of 100+ish lines (each facility has one line)
1 containing 7000+ish lines (some locations have multiple lines)


The 100+ lines containing a facility ID number such as "208976"
The 7000+ lines spreadsheets contains columns such as "Facility 208976", "Waste profile" etc

I need to compare the 100+ lines (numbers) to the 7000+lines (facility column). Thus, filtering the 7000+ lines of data for only the facility numbers of the 100+ facility numbers.

Any help?

[Cez★]

sort/filter?

i think thers a dedup command or something that goes trhough and finds duplicates

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or ctrl find for the number that you need

[race2c]

i tried sort/filter, but there has to be a better way to compare the numbers.

if i use sort/filter, i still ahve to type in 100+ 6-7 digit numbers. just trying to find a better way.

[lowerc]

you'll have to do a little clean up of data so you are comparing apples to apples

With the 7000 are the facility numbers all 6 digits long?
In new column type =right(oldcolumnnumber,6)

that will pair it down to just the number.

In 100 line spreadsheet do VLOOKUP. check help for proper syntax

[theholycow]

Hey IT folks I would to ask for some VBA/excel help.

Here is the background.

2 spreadsheets

1 containing a list of 100+ish lines (each facility has one line)
1 containing 7000+ish lines (some locations have multiple lines)


The 100+ lines containing a facility ID number such as "208976"
The 7000+ lines spreadsheets contains columns such as "Facility 208976", "Waste profile" etc

I need to compare the 100+ lines (numbers) to the 7000+lines (facility column). Thus, filtering the 7000+ lines of data for only the facility numbers of the 100+ facility numbers.

Any help?

Save as CSV and import to some sort of database software. You're doing database work, why not use the right tool? You'll probably spend more time trying to hack spreadsheet software into doing the job than you'll spend learning a database program instead.

[race2c]

Some numbers are 5 digits and some are 6 digits.

Rick - what kind of databases you referring to?

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

[theholycow]

Not sure on specifics, I'm not a database person. Microsoft Access ought to do the job but I don't know if it would be the best choice, just the first that comes to mind.

[Sal]

http://i.imgur.com/r978T.jpg

[Mr.Rogers]

:lol: HARD CORE MF! RIGGGHT THUUR

[Cez★]

fuck. doing another assignment where i have days 1 through 10 and the population on those days. the days column goes
4
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10

[MFB]

Installed Windows 8 today,


pretty fucking bamf after i got done spending 2 hours fucking configing it and removing fucking metro.


600mb ram @ idle , not bad

[stonehenge]

did you find a way to really get rid of metro or are you just avoiding it with a fake start menu program and whatnot?

[MFB]

did you find a way to really get rid of metro or are you just avoiding it with a fake start menu program and whatnot?

oh its gone

[stonehenge]

sauce plz, dfw Metro-B-Gon

[MikeH]

started the upgrade to Win 8 before I left work. Hopefully it worked, forgot I had a non-legit copy of Win 7 from when I didn't have restore discs and I fucked my comp :rofl:

[MFB]

started the upgrade to Win 8 before I left work. Hopefully it worked, forgot I had a non-legit copy of Win 7 from when I didn't have restore discs and I fucked my comp :rofl:

I upgraded with a bootleg 7 key and it activated perfect. :P

[MikeH]

everything was good when I got home. now how to figure out how to get rid of metro. this shit sucks, and is annoying as hell.

[stonehenge]

I have the craptop dual booting W7/W8. The default is W7 for now since the metro is fgtry. DFW to fix W8 and use it though.

[MikeH]

Fucking Brett comes in says he got rid of Metro and no tells us how :emo:

[theholycow]

http://tech2.in.com/how-to/software/how-to-get-rid-of-windows-8-metro-ui/313582 maybe?

[stonehenge]

That articles from June. Pretty sure that method worked on the Previews but not the final release.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

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http://limpet.net/mbrubeck/2012/10/26/mozilla-ie10-cake.html

[theholycow]

http://limpet.net/mbrubeck/2012/10/26/mozilla-ie10-cake.html

That's pretty damned awesome.

[stonehenge]

Would expect them to be enemies :jester:

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

[theholycow]

IT Regulators, we regulate any access of technology and we damn good too. But you can't be any geek off the street, gotta be handy with the keyboard if you know what I mean, earn your keep!

[stonehenge]

:lol: Warren IT :repz:

[JayBo]

lol. Watched Young Guns last night

[shootermcgavin003]

still running vista on laptop :lol:

[stonehenge]

Fts

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

[shootermcgavin003]

dgaf laptop is kinda outdated only got 80 bucks in it though