a hillbilly talks buicks with a cow

[shootermcgavin003]

:roflshrug: figured id post all the buick love in here

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anyhow cow im thinking of pulling all the stainless of the 83

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245 lb·ft cow and a 140 hp

[theholycow]

...compared to:
Original spec is 205 ft-lb at 2000rpm and 125hp at 4000rpm for the 1980 4.1 (252)...doubt I'm getting that much. What's the rating for the 1983 307?

Makes sense.

What stainless are you pulling? I'm not familiar with what there is...interior trim under the doors maybe? Mine has various bits of chrome and spun aluminum gauges.

Speaking of gauges, I need a fuel gauge, doesn't need to work...I have the face with water temp/fuel/volts but no can for it. There's a small rectangular hole where a vacuum or boost gauge is supposed to be, but I have a 2 inch vacuum gauge where my PRNDL was (and no vacuum bar meter) so I'm probably going to put my high beam indicator there (currently located behind steering wheel trim, lights up blue around the steering column). I don't want to risk destroying my gauge.

[shootermcgavin003]

mine has stainless down the rockers and wheel lips. my high beam and stuff is in the speedo

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idiot lights fuel speedo shift indicator and the clock is all i have

[theholycow]

High beam used to be in my PRNDL.

You have a shift indicator? :wtf:

[shootermcgavin003]

the prndl is what i meant by shift inditactor

mines in my speedo along with the signals

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mine also has a low fuel light in the fuel gauge

[theholycow]

the prndl is what i meant by shift inditactor

:lol:

I thought you meant a light to tell you when to shift.

I think my new gauge face may have a low fuel light too, now that you mention it.
http://www.buickfarm.net/components/com_redshop/assets/images/product/1162010204637-Picture.JPG
...no maybe not.

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Check http://BuickFarm.net for that trim you need.

[Cez★]

:gayyy:

[theholycow]

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv315/theh0lyc0w/EmotiCows/cow-armscrossed.png

[Cez★]

:cheeky:

[shootermcgavin003]

see my gauge is nothing like that its just a big fuel gauge and led light. cow if you find in a yard a od gear indicator get it and ill buy it.

[theholycow]

Round 2 inch? Post a photo of something like it.

If you don't need od, I don't expect to ever use mine again but it's just prnd21.
http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-6SBKKPrtyq4/R-VxYNyTlxI/AAAAAAAABvM/WcphYhfjUkg/s800/IMG_0459.jpg

[shootermcgavin003]

i looked again mines is like yours but black. od is what i need i may just use a aftermarket gear indicator

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i thinking after 140 mph speed in oem locations tach where fuel gauge is and a small fuel gauge in the indicator. as for the bright light just a led in the wood above would work. idk what to put in the clock place maybeye a quad gauge.

[theholycow]

Post a photo of your dash. I wish mine had places for more gauges.

[shootermcgavin003]

i dont have one right now ill have to get one at home. my dash is like yours minus the gauges being black.

[shootermcgavin003]

no dash pics due to busted water line in shithole house that needs tore down

[theholycow]

:sheit:

[shootermcgavin003]

yeah pissed me off

[shootermcgavin003]

Jhq31xjpqno&feature=plcp

vigi

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wV-kY13ag2c&feature=plcp

[theholycow]

Didn't listen, but that shit looks clean. http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv315/theh0lyc0w/EmotiCows/cow-thumbsup.gif

[shootermcgavin003]

sounds ok has exhaust leak

[theholycow]

:lol: mine has exhaust leak too.

[shootermcgavin003]

mines in that fucking crossover pipe. i hate that thing.

[theholycow]

The pipe that goes from the drivers side manifold, under the engine near the bellhousing, and back up to the retarded junction box?
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_NUF7e4VZj88/TC9ytEw51qI/AAAAAAAAAh8/c9RQkelkZ2o/s640/IMG_4787.JPG

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That pipe on mine is going to rub through eventually, it rubs right against my bellhousing.

[shootermcgavin003]

mine actually is a little different it runs across and y in to the other collector on the right side at the bottom in front of mt cat convertor. but same thing really

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sure makes life hell when changing starters the olds engins have starters on the left and the pipe lays against it.

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i would like to loose at that shit have duals

[theholycow]

Speaking of bellhousings, wish I could afford this showpiece:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemNext&item=251134817309&autorefresh=true

I'm sure it'll go for over a hundred bucks. Mine didn't come with the fork boot or the inspection cover...I half-assed both using hastily cut flat aluminum and rubber stock and a zip tie.

[shootermcgavin003]

eh it works

i need a 200-4r to bolt to my 350 buick.

[theholycow]

Both are visible here:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_BJ1mrx6tq8/TJVZE1vz90I/AAAAAAAAA5I/i2NScUnh22Q/s640/IMG_5542.JPG

[shootermcgavin003]

you should get someone to cut you some metal and roll the edges and shit so it looks all nice

[theholycow]

Looking at it now, I think I should drill some drain holes.

Like I'll ever get around to doing that.

:bishplz:

[stonehenge]

so much DIY in that pic :high5:

[shootermcgavin003]

id build one with a drain hole and shit be easy with metal brake

[theholycow]

My dad used to be a master at the brake. When he did vinyl siding all the time he'd wrap the window casings. He could bend all kinds of crazy crap on the first try. He's out of practice now.

Oh, and that nut/bolt that holds it on? I couldn't find one to fit the threaded hole so I just found one that fit through it loosely and used a nut. FIDIL.

Oh yeah, you can can see my slave bracket in that pic too. One of these days I should wirebrush and paint it.
:lol:

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I should also brace it, it flexes a bit when I operate the clutch and I'm sure it'll eventually fatigue. Or, you know, I could do what I originally planned: Pay a machinist to make a decent one out of 1/4" stock.

[shootermcgavin003]

you can buy them for bolting a 5 speed to sbb too

[theholycow]

I was unable to find an appropriate slave bracket pre-fab. I don't think any were made for the BOP bellhousing, which was only ever used with a rod linkage.

[shootermcgavin003]

i think they made one but it was special company idk what it was but it was so you could mate a t56 or t5 to 455 or 350 should work with the v6 variants also.

[theholycow]

:hmm: That would make sense. Maybe I did find one but it was ridiculously expensive.

[shootermcgavin003]

seems like they are high dollar. only reason i knew this was in my searches for nailhead adapters which are stupid high dollar.

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i know very little about stick shifts since i dont fool with them ever

[theholycow]

I just got a great idea. I got this OnStar/compass/temp mirror from the junkyard, for the compass and temp. I just realized I could hook other stuff up to the OnStar buttons/lights...especially my trunk release! When I put in the trunk release I used a toggle switch that I had on-hand and let's face it, using a toggle switch in a momentary application sucks. I've been looking for a safety-covered pushbutton (like the kind used to fire missiles) but I could use two of the OnStar buttons (if I only use one then I could accidentally pop the trunk while adjusting the mirror). Then I could use the freed-up toggle switch to operate the electrochromatic dimming of the mirror...

[shootermcgavin003]

my car has a trunk button dont yours?

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its a auto dimming mirror so it just need a key switch source to it and it will work like oem

[theholycow]

Mine didn't come with a trunk release. I grabbed one at the junkyard but didn't take the button at that time, for some reason.

Pin 5 (gray) is "Automatic Day/Night Mirror Signal" and pin 16 (pink) is "Automatic Day/Night Mirror Low Reference". Schematic shows them going through the Driver's Door Module. I thought it was all self-contained until I saw that while looking up which wire needs power.

[shootermcgavin003]

what im saying is though the wires that need power just run them key switched source so it will work without toggle switch

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my truck release is just a button its in the glove box on mine. yours a pw pl car?

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however my truck release is not work need to figure that out

[theholycow]

If I do that then it will be dimmed whenever the key is on. If I'm going for that I'll just put tint on it...no need to get wires involved.

[shootermcgavin003]

the ones ive seen use the sensor on the bottom of the mirror to auto dim. i think the module in the drivers door your speaking off is like my moms blazer drivers side door dims along with the mirror

[theholycow]

OIC. That would make more sense than having the sensor go through a module elsewhere.

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Well anyway I'd prefer manual control so I might hack something for it.

[shootermcgavin003]

id test it make sure

[shootermcgavin003]

removing the vinyl top on mine now metal under looks real nice

[theholycow]

I bet mine would be nice like that too...in stark contrast to the rest of the car. :blah:

[shootermcgavin003]

mine matches nicely

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only thing is i dont have the stainless i need for the back winder

[shootermcgavin003]

found 3 very small rust holes after i got it all removed :pissed:

also fuck oldsmobiles fuel line set up

[theholycow]

Why, what's the fuel line like?

[shootermcgavin003]

the fuel filter housing is right against the water line on the intake. so its almost impossible to get the fuel line off on a 307. i broke mine trying to get it off. made one out of rubber line to fix it but barley got it in there cause of the water line.

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if i was actally keeping this motor id run a braded line a banjo fitting and external in line fuel filter.

[theholycow]

When I did mine the flare nut was seized to the line. I too ended up using rubber hose, just for a few inches. I had to put hose clamps on it to round out the kinks where it makes a sharp right angle. If I did it again I think I could bend some pipe or use a piece that's already bent...I've got a whole 1994 S10's set of fuel/etc pipe to cut from.

Do you have rims, unadorned steelies, or steelies with wheelcovers? I want a way to secure my wheelcovers so they stay stuck firmly on. I'm thinking of getting some kind of center cap for steelies that attaches securely to the lug nuts, then putting a screw through the wheelcovers into the center cap.

[shootermcgavin003]

well i had hubcaps but i ebayed them so i running steelies. however my oem hubcaps had a center thing that bolted to the lug nuts made of metal and then the hubcap bolted to it right in the center. basically oem of what your wanting.

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i had to get a peice of brake line cut it and put clamps on it for mine it works though. mine was pretty seized up and little stripped. i had to cut the line then put a breaking bar on the housing to get it out. btw hf ratching breaking bar is the greatest tool ever invented.

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what happened to the rally buick wheels on your car thought it had the nice wheels

[theholycow]

I had a 1987 Deville with a system like you describe. It was FWD and probably had a totally different bolt pattern so I didn't bother looking for it, but now I know I can look for retainers from a 1983 LeSabre.

My Rally wheels are rusted and nasty. Also, as part of being cheapjewcao, I buy used tires already mounted on steelies that fit my car so I don't have to get them mounted (and I can swap in my yard easily so I can put on worn tires during the summer, all-season tires in fall/spring, and studded winter tires in the winter).

So, since I usually have not just steelies but rusted, unmatched steelies, I've acquired wheelcovers. These meet my aerodynamic wishes and OEMness standard, as they were standard equipment on the 1980 LeSabre. Eventually I would like to get racing discs but these are functionally pretty close, they fit nice and tight to the wheel's rim, they look decent, and I got the first three pretty cheap (as well I'm now getting a bunch for free).

I bought four pizza pans to make pizza pan racing discs but never did finish that project.

Racing disc:
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb192/sciphi/IMG_2030.jpg

Pizza pan:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6Y8Eustycmk/TeJ2ZLBRnBI/AAAAAAAAABg/56xYZKOerUM/s640/IMG_6604.JPG

1980 LeSabre OEM:
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv315/theh0lyc0w/WheelcoverBlackwall.jpg

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I think all of the above would look better with whitewalls. I know the OEM ones sure do.

[shootermcgavin003]

if i was you id run steelies and white letters. how wide are your rallys and shit. i want a set.

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i see your bumper fillers have went to shit also.

[theholycow]

Yeah, my bumper fillers were totally rotted when I put the car back on the road in 2010 and they were gone within a couple weeks.

Pretty sure my Rallys are 7 inches wide.

[shootermcgavin003]

want rid of them?

[theholycow]

You seriously don't want them they all rusty and shit.

Sent from my Venture using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2

[shootermcgavin003]

well if the price is right............im gonna sandblast and powdercoat them

[stonehenge]

BIWP and powdercoat imo

[theholycow]

:chin: Damn, on one hand I could use the money, OTOH I'm not sure I'm ready to let them go. Here's what they looked like in 2008:
https://picasaweb.google.com/104650139423231866879/1980BuickLeSabreLimited41V6#5180671985148204898
https://picasaweb.google.com/104650139423231866879/1980BuickLeSabreLimited41V6#5180671916428728146
https://picasaweb.google.com/104650139423231866879/1980BuickLeSabreLimited41V6#5180671834824349506
https://picasaweb.google.com/104650139423231866879/1980BuickLeSabreLimited41V6#5180671761809905458
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-b51eTZg0Yv4/R-VxuNyTl2I/AAAAAAAABv8/TwldvXydeqE/s640/IMG_0464.jpg

...obviously they're a bit worse now. They do roll smooth and presumably balance easily. I'll try to get up-to-date photos.

[shootermcgavin003]

let me know paint and shit could make em look good for cheap

[shootermcgavin003]

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/716267/1984-oldsmobile-delta-88/page-9

kinda how i want to do mine

[stonehenge]

sexy

[shootermcgavin003]

i like it but a buick engine ofcourse

[theholycow]

Not a Buick, but a GM from the same era...my wife's 1985 Chevrolet. What is the proper way to fix this antenna mount?

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv315/theh0lyc0w/IMG_20120909_112909.jpg

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Reflection of :gB: creepin' in bottom left of photo. :cheeky:

[stonehenge]

Do want your waifus car

[shootermcgavin003]

it should have a nut under the fender that holds it looks like its been loose for a while and the rubber peice is missing since the paint is gone. i would prime that little spot and touch up under there so it dont rust and get a rubber washer or something and the nut and put it all back right.

[theholycow]

Fack. Looks like a pain, there's no easy accessibility to the inside of the fender, it's double-walled.

[shootermcgavin003]

should be a access hole

[stonehenge]

should be a access hole

:creepygusta:

[shootermcgavin003]

:lol:

[shootermcgavin003]

cao can i get a pictorial of your accessory brackets

[theholycow]

:chin: What are you looking for, exactly? Here's what I've already got up on my Picasa that might help:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-C8wSWTKiCyA/SBcxuKYZsYI/AAAAAAAACE4/CFraWw-BBHo/s800/IMG_0642.JPG

Lower left, red and silver label: A/C compressor
Upper left, white corrosion: Alternator
Upper right, white corrosion and black bracket: AIR pump (no longer on car)
Lower right, black cap: Power steering

(You surely knew all that, but just in case.)

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-qgfwiEXeXz8/R-Vx29yTl4I/AAAAAAAABwQ/hnMqFa0KbdA/s800/IMG_0466.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-tdDPyyZz9qA/R-Vx7dyTl5I/AAAAAAAABwc/ULTxoRgen4w/s800/IMG_0467.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-1VHRz38iqk0/R-VyS9yTl_I/AAAAAAAABxY/mOS-PTPB5QU/s800/IMG_0473.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ecxdJZ2SuZI/TbgYfsDFYyI/AAAAAAAAG98/h7O_b-eN4HM/s800/IMG_6380.JPG

Here's a question: How do I know if I have the tension right on my belts?

[shootermcgavin003]

i just put my belts tight as i can and im good. i looking to see the difference from a 80s buick v6 vs the my 350 from 73. so i know how to make the ac and shit work. looks like they have a different alt and ac bracket. smog pump is not going in. i took it off the 307 also.

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http://psiautomotive.com/services/engine/100_0183-watermarked.jpg

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thats the 73 setup however mine had the bracket for the smog pump too

[theholycow]

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/3908_10151252114863150_654492905_n.jpg

[Manbearpig]

dat mirr0r

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and dem gauges

[theholycow]

That gauge is where the PRND21 display was for the slushbox. It's a vacuum gauge from Harbor Freight. I see now that they've discontinued it and replaced it with a boost/vacuum gauge...lame.

Anyway it was a perfect fit for that spot, although I haven't put in the effort to devise a mount to make it stable and well-aligned so it's usually a bit cockeyed.

http://hfreviews.com/thumbnails/98482.gif
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv315/theh0lyc0w/ProjectChristinesloHackensteinberg/p_00010.jpg

Unfortunately the faux woodgrain was rubbed off by a larger rubber-backed vacuum gauge I had resting on top of the steering column before.

I also have one of these, had it for a year but haven't done anything with it yet:
http://www.buickfarm.net/components/com_redshop/assets/images/product/1162010204637-Picture.JPG
It would take the place of my one huge fuel gauge. It's just the guts and face, no lens or can, so I want to get a gauge from a junkyard to hack instead of hacking my own...but they're surprisingly tough to find.

Want a tach and an oil pressure gauge. No idea where I can mount them. Would love this series, would love the entire set:
http://contentinfo.autozone.com/znetcs/product-info/en/US/atm/1594/image/2/
They're ridiculously expensive but they look great and the tach is available in 5000 and 7000 RPM versions as well as the more common 8000-10000 ones. Not sure how many RPM this engine is good for but I don't think I've ever hit 5000.

[stonehenge]

dfw your waifus chebby

[Manbearpig]

http://psiautomotive.com/services/engine/100_0183-watermarked.jpg



YUP

painting my LT1 metallic blue

[shootermcgavin003]

5500 rick. Im pulling all my gauges and going to put a new tach and speedo where the oem fuel and speedo are. Also going to change to a column shift indicator and throw a small gauge there. The rest will be in a pod either under or on top the dash. If i can fit it i may run those all in one gauges but im thinking there too big. But if they would fit i wouldnt need any gauge pods. I want a tach speedo fuel volt water oil and trans gauge.

i r on my phone nekkid

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YUP

painting my LT1 metallic blue

My 350 will be buick red. Buicks didnt go blue till 75 when all gms went blue. It was only a pontiac or caddy deal prior to that. Makes sense for you however pontiacs are blue. Id do original pontiac blue though if it was me. Again id prob not have a lt1 in a pontiac though. I like them to be pontiac powered.

i r on my phone nekkid

[theholycow]

5500 rick. Im pulling all my gauges

:whoa: Are they separate standalone gauges like mine, not a cluster? I seriously need a fuel gauge housing/lens to put my fuel/temp/volt gauge in.

[shootermcgavin003]

Well the multi gauges arent there one big gauge housing with 4 gauges in it. But there 5 in gauges. Prob to big.

i r on my phone nekkid

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Oh my oem yeah there seperate. Gotta deal for ya clock housing work?

i r on my phone nekkid

[theholycow]

Well the multi gauges arent there one big gauge housing with 4 gauges in it. But there 5 in gauges. Prob to big.

i r on my phone nekkid

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Oh my oem yeah there seperate. Gotta deal for ya clock housing work?

i r on my phone nekkid

:wat:

[shootermcgavin003]

the oem gauges are seperate like yours. only thing there black not silver. i wont be removing mine for some time though. prob be the last thing i do to it. however i was going to ebay my clock which is the same size as the gauges could you use something like that. also if you just need the housing cant you use one of your gauges and switch the guts.

[theholycow]

OIC. Clock would probably work. Does it have the can and lens like the fuel gauge?

I could use one of my existing gauges but I'd hate to hack into it...I'd rather hack a spare.

[shootermcgavin003]

yeah its exactly like the other gauges. i dont think it would be much hacking anyhow it just un bolts.

[theholycow]

Mine don't, they bolt off of the car but then they have tabs that you have to bend just to get to the first step of taking them apart...haven't tried it, expecting them to be brittle, so I don't know what comes after that.

[shootermcgavin003]

idk either i think mine has bolts though

[shootermcgavin003]

rick just send me one of them fucked transducers for now. it will all be gutted later anyhow.

[theholycow]

Rather send the cable, that'll work better for you and I'll have more material if I decide I need to frankenstein hack a transducer together.

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It's Turdsday night now, going to junkyard Saturday.

[shootermcgavin003]

oh ok i just didnt want you to go the trouble but im koo

[shootermcgavin003]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/nekkidhillbilly/stuff4sell/IMG_20121201_184541_916.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/nekkidhillbilly/stuff4sell/IMG_20121201_184523_363.jpg

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/nekkidhillbilly/stuff4sell/IMG_20121201_184533_054.jpg

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sorry about the blurryness but there it is. one of the plug tabs broke when i was trying to remove it but i dont see that affecting you modding it. can you use that?

[theholycow]

It's hard to tell from those photos. It's definitely not exactly the same as what's in my car. Looks like it'd probably work.

I don't have a photo of what I have, surprisingly, but here are photos of the new gauge guts/face that need a housing/lens:
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv315/theh0lyc0w/ProjectChristinesloHackensteinberg/Cluster1162010204637-Picture.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv315/theh0lyc0w/ProjectChristinesloHackensteinberg/ClusterCIMG9940.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv315/theh0lyc0w/ProjectChristinesloHackensteinberg/ClusterCIMG9942.jpg

Also, I gotta thank http://www.BuickFarm.net for hooking me up. They've got a crapload of NOS parts and Doug, after I explained why I wanted a non-matching part, sent me those photos so I could use them to guess if it would work or not. It wasn't long afterwards that I had the item in my possession.

Any thoughts?

[shootermcgavin003]

Its the same size housing as my speedo. So it should do.

i r on my phone nekkid

[shootermcgavin003]

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/1806/1241/29513120009_large.jpg

scored one of these to replace my clock panel for 15 bucks doesent have hole in it

[theholycow]

:whoa: Where'd you get that?

[shootermcgavin003]

Ebay guy had it buy it now or best offer. Threw it out there.

i r on my phone nekkid

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He took it. Theres another on there but dood wants way to mash.

i r on my phone nekkid

[theholycow]

Hazzard, we have a problem. How do I package the rear window trim for mailing? It's like 6 feet long and would be damaged if bent. I wonder if an appropriate mailing tube exists...

...ok looked on office supply store sites, only tube long enough comes in a bulk pack for like $150. :jester: Maybe I could splice two tubes.

:hmm: Maybe I could get something from a plumbing supply store that might have a box used for shipping small pipes, or an auto parts store from shipping non-coiled steel brake line.

[shootermcgavin003]

pvc pipe is what i use cao. just a cheap peice of that or black pipe either one.

[theholycow]

I was thinking of doing that. Guess I'll go to Home Despot tonight.

[shootermcgavin003]

the lighter the pipe better it will be

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http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2633/4087717218_db2e33e8fd_z.jpg

think my dad may be picking up something like this from one of the guys i work with. its green idk much else about it will in a few days.

[stonehenge]

dfw

[shootermcgavin003]

its been setting for a few years has a 400 in it is all i know.

[theholycow]

Stopped at Home Despot and bought a lightweight 4" x 10' pipe. Drove home with it strapped to the side of :gB:.
:lol:

I'll pack it tonight and try to figure out the best way to mail it.

[shootermcgavin003]

should just be able to ground it cheapest. i would cut the pipe down as short is possible too. i still havent got the transducer off been dark when i get home.

[stonehenge]

Get some hayz from the pasture and stuff it in there for padding.

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[shootermcgavin003]

hard to tape shit with hoofs

[theholycow]

It's packaged. Insufficient lighting for a decent photo but let's just say it looks legit. :sneaky: Delivery folks will think we're baller as fuck.

[shootermcgavin003]

Lol

i r on my phone nekkid

[stonehenge]

Give to delivery guy and be like "don't worry bro is not giant piep bomb :secret:"

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[shootermcgavin003]

Tell its alot of dildos

i r on my phone nekkid

[theholycow]

"It's a 5 foot long 4 inch thick dildo...FOR YOUR MOMMA!"

[theholycow]

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv315/theh0lyc0w/IMG_4294.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv315/theh0lyc0w/IMG_4296.jpg

:lol:

[stonehenge]

:notbad:

[BillyJeanKing]

da fuqq?

[theholycow]

Mailing 5' long window trim.

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Wasn't looking for it but just found $10 off $20 FedEx coupon.
http://www.fedex.com/us/coupon.pdf
:fuckyeah:

[stonehenge]

:bitchin:

[shootermcgavin003]

why is your vinyl top white?

[theholycow]

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/341/i-dunno-lol_1_.jpg

It used to be a brownish color but my wife scrubbed the dirt off of it.
:lol:

[shootermcgavin003]

arent it supposed to be blue the same color as the car.

[stonehenge]

is limited edition

[theholycow]

True, it is a LeSabre Limited.

I imagine it would be even more ugly if it was color-matched.

[shootermcgavin003]

is limited edition

so is mine foo :bertstare:. usually there the same color as interior.

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True, it is a LeSabre Limited.

I imagine it would be even more ugly if it was color-matched.

i like it better like that with the white. think i only seen it dirty or never payed attention. is yours a power car? it doesnt have mirrors like mine.

[stonehenge]

idgaf about the mirrors, :gB: screams "power" :crossarms:

[shootermcgavin003]

i mean pw pl pm foo.

[stonehenge]

lol i know

[theholycow]

:jester:

No power. Drivers side mirror should be the same. Passenger side mirror was not included with the car...previous owner screwed on a cheap aftermarket mirror.

I suspect that the only options were the 4.1, AM/FM stereo, air conditioning, landeau top, and rally wheels.

Wife bought me a proper, matching, OEM-replacement passenger side mirror for xmas. It's electric...I'll have to find a place for a switch, or just use it manually. If it holds its adjustment then I don't care to mess with it.

Since the aftermarket mirror isn't mounted in the OEM location I'll have two screw holes to fix. How do I do that?

[stonehenge]

play-doh in the holes imo


Wasn't the previous owner your dad or grandpa or something? :think:

[theholycow]

My maternal grandfather bought it new. He died and we gave it to my paternal grandmother. Various hacks that it came with (dome light wires with household lamp cord, that mirror, brackets used to raise seat height, cupholders screwed into door panel) might be my maternal grandfather's fault, my dad's fault, or fault of the mechanic that my dad brought it to. Lamp cord (and wire nuts IIRC) must be maternal grandfather's fault, he was an electrician. Seat height brackets are not his fault, I remember dad wanted the seat higher for paternal grandmother...as I remember he said he sent it to an upholstery shop to have padding added but obviously I remember wrong.

I want to know who did the undercoating. If they're still around and still using the same product/process, I want to send business their way, everything that was undercoated is miraculously rust-free 32 years later.

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Maternal grandfather almost certainly was at fault for the cupholders, I remember the car sitting in his garage with a cup in the cupholder and a paper towel stuck to the bottom of the cupholder...also the screws aren't the screws my dad would have used.

[stonehenge]

:datFamily:gB::

[shootermcgavin003]

My car has the sport mirrors similar to whats on wifes monte there.

i r on my phone nekkid

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You could put some plugs in the other holes and paint them.

i r on my phone nekkid

[theholycow]

I was thinking of grabbing some sport mirrors off a junkyard car and painting them until wife ordered that chrome mirror. Then this Saturday I found a car in the junkyard with chrome mirrors too...but the one that wife got is electric.

What kind of plugs would I use for that?

[shootermcgavin003]

Some of them had oem power. I think 84 up did and the caddis. Mine are remote but no pm. I guess you would need the oem switch.

i r on my phone nekkid

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Plus drill a hole for that wire.

i r on my phone nekkid

[theholycow]

:chin: There's no wires going into my door right now, are there.

If I hook it up, I'm gonna use an OEM switch from a Caddy whose mirror and wiring/switch I harvested once but decided not to use.

[shootermcgavin003]

Yeah you will have to run all that.

i r on my phone nekkid

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If you could find all the pw pl and panels off a lesabre or delta be best idea.

i r on my phone nekkid

[theholycow]

DNW to have to buy all PW PL stuff just for my PM...though if I found a donor I might do it just so I can have panels that aren't all worn/cracked/fucked up.

Mailing package USPS tomorrow. Stopped at FedEx but the coupon doesn't work for ground and the next step up is way too expensive even with the coupon.

[shootermcgavin003]

oh yeah fts then. the pontiacs and deltas swap. caprices will but there not a 100 percent. the deltas dont have woodgrain but its basically the same panel.

[theholycow]

Finally shipped that mofo, USPS Parcel Post.

[shootermcgavin003]

Im gonna have switch speedo cables before i can remove it rick ill get it when i get that one u found me. Insured the lesabre and drove it. Wife gonna bish.

i r on my phone nekkid

[theholycow]

Sounds like a plan...and fuck yeah driving it!

[shootermcgavin003]

When it arrives ill swap em. Had a ball driving it. Hey do you know how the knob comes off the headlight switch. Never could figure it out.

i r on my phone nekkid

[theholycow]

Yup. You need a right-angle (or sharper) pick or piece of baling wire/coat hanger bent like one. Either of the two on the right in this picture will work:
http://www.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/small_image/160x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_16048.jpg

I keep a 2 inch piece of baling wire with a bend like that in my glovebox.

You pull the knob out to turn the lights on, spin it until the latch is facing up, hang the pick on the metal tab, pull the tab with the pick, and the knob slides right off. Then you unscrew the bezel behind it by hand. Installation is reverse, but no pick required, just push the knob on.

[shootermcgavin003]

Oic. I couldnt remember at all. Sadly i removed on years ago but forgot that shit.

i r on my phone nekkid

[shootermcgavin003]

got that shit cao. ill swap them cables this week.

[theholycow]

:horyshet:

That was fast, I thought it'd be like next Wednesday or later. Did the tape hold? I was afraid my packaging job would fail.

[shootermcgavin003]

idk its at dads. he didnt say it was fucked though.

[shootermcgavin003]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/80-Buick-LESABRE-/170956185528?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item27cdc85fb8

weird options on that car rick and thought 80 was the older clip?

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but its seem the black gauges and silver be the same size and shit

[theholycow]

No, 80 is when they switched the clip...same exact clip as mine.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-YEiwi1ioN68/R-VxF9yTltI/AAAAAAAABuk/0Tfl4rfd4cQ/s640/IMG_0455.jpg

So mash clean. Jelly.

Which options seem weird? Seems equipped about like you might expect. I'm not familiar with those wheels but it says they're factory.

[shootermcgavin003]

well the gauges are half black half silver. the power windows are just stuck on the door panel rather than a long armrest. no wood on the doors. vinyl seats.

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also theres something weird above the speedo and shit. those wheels are factory the wagons had 8.5 rears and the bigger bolt pattern.

[theholycow]

Good point, I was wondering what's up with the gauges...but I didn't know where the window switches should be.

[shootermcgavin003]

well mine and most of them ive seen have a longer armrest. and the witches are in that panel. its actually a add on to the armrest you see but makes it longer and all. those look non oem.

[theholycow]

Was about to go look to see if those switches were available OEM when I realized you might need these links:
http://gmpartswiki.com/getpage?pageid=79672
http://gmpartswiki.com/getpage?pageid=78672

I bought them on eBay. When I found that site I scanned them for the dude who runs it, he OCR'd them and put them up.

[shootermcgavin003]

ive got them for 83 also

[theholycow]

Got access to a good bulk-feed scanner? I can put you in touch with the dude, you'd be doing the world a favor.

[shootermcgavin003]

i think mine are just wiring and chassis manuals ill have to look.

[theholycow]

I have the chassis and body manuals too, but those links are the part numbers and illustrations.

[shootermcgavin003]

yeah i dont think mine are that now that i look at. they where in the car when i got it.

[theholycow]

Lucky 7, bitches!
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/301285_10151278101738150_107752508_n.jpg

[Cez★]

CV almost there :bawl:


better keep in garage :cam:

[BillyJeanKing]

tembo was almost 400K

[theholycow]

:whoa: Srsly? :hoofbump:

[stonehenge]

RIP :tembo:

[BillyJeanKing]

srsly

tembo was a rental car when it was born so that was probably a good year or two of being driven to hell and back.

then my neighbors wife got it. she drove it work 5 days a week for 10 years or so

then i got it and drove 30 minutes to school and back for 3 years plus I always worked jobs that were FAR as fuck from my house.

[stonehenge]

workhoarse

[BillyJeanKing]

:serio:

[theholycow]

Even though this is the Buick thread... :fordpatriot:

[stonehenge]

I'm pretty sure I've shown some :gB: love in the CV thread :crossarms:

[shootermcgavin003]

old 84 k20 had 1000000 miles when sold it

[BillyJeanKing]

:nowai:

[shootermcgavin003]

seriously. motor had like 980k though. garage fucked it when it was new and replace with new gm engine under warranty,

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was smoking pretty bad when sold it. mark got to the point he wouldnt change oil in just add to it.

[shootermcgavin003]

http://cleveland.craigslist.org/cto/3445229624.html

:drool:

[BillyJeanKing]

would roll

[shootermcgavin003]

want mine like that minus cowl hood

[theholycow]

Kinda cool.

[shootermcgavin003]

i think its badass myself

[stonehenge]

Would change the wheels and steering wheel and roll the fuck out of it

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[shootermcgavin003]

i dont mind the wheels. steering wheel i would. not much on a cowl hood though.

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ricsk is yours a 81? cuase yours has a grill like mine dont it?

[theholycow]

Nope, mine's definitely '80. That's when they changed.

Agreed, wheels are ok and steering wheel's a bit ricey.

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Also, the OEM steering wheel is so awesome that it's a cryin' shame to change it. Only way I'd change it is a wood one with the 2 same shaped spokes, but I haven't seen one like that.

[stonehenge]

Also, the OEM steering wheel is so awesome that it's a cryin' shame to change it. Only way I'd change it is a wood one with the 2 same shaped spokes, but I haven't seen one like that.
Make one out of plywood

[shootermcgavin003]

weird the 80 grill is almost exactly like the 82-83 but the 81 has that billet looking grill. i kinda like that grill on the 81. im changing my sterring wheel rick mine is cracked and is to thin.

im doing this and chaning the interior to black http://images2.jcwstatics.com/is/image/Autos/g19334_1?$JCW_SKU$

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im also gonna tint or paint the woodgrain

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http://www.classicindustries.com/images/productimg/w/w1585b.jpg

similar rick

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http://www.classicindustries.com/images/productimg/w/w1587b.jpg

even closer

[theholycow]

Maybe with wood spokes those wouldn't be too bad...still not as awesome as the OEM wheel though.

I don't mind my thin steering wheel rim, it allows me to put on different covers for a change of surface without it being too thick, though I'd trade that for a nice finished wood.

[shootermcgavin003]

My oem wheel is ugly idk if yours is the same

[theholycow]

Kinda upside-down, but:
http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-coaG5qFYEOU/R-VxKtyTluI/AAAAAAAABus/RfKOCGxRZKQ/s640/IMG_0456.jpg

[shootermcgavin003]

yours and mine are totally different mine looks like a dirty butthole

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http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3168/2729357031_4860f56475.jpg

like mine :puke:

[theholycow]

:puke: I would replace that one immediately with the nearest 2x4.

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S10 came with an aftermarket wheel. The rubber rim is all deteriorating and sticky and shit but if I had yours I'd seriously slap it on immediately.
http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-blwvrz-DQd4/TArJR85cOdI/AAAAAAAAAS8/7C8VDlY0mcw/s640/IMG_4489.JPG

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Caddies in the 80s had wheels similar to mine. My '87 Deville had one. Not mine, mine was tan...
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/1/3186/3561/7964280004_large.jpg

[shootermcgavin003]

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/1/1183/2761/2956380006_large.jpg

mine is actually like that it still aint great and is thin as paper

[theholycow]

Ok, that's less ugly than that squared-off one you posted. I don't love it but it doesn't make me homicidal.

There was a blue Deville in what previously was my favorite junkyard before they were bought out, wish I had gotten the steering wheel and tilt/telescope column as well as the cloth split bench seat. Tried to get the wheel but failed, when I went back next week to try again somebody had ruined it getting it off. Did get the visors, dome light/garage door opener compartment/visor support, Caddy steering wheel logo, and center high mount stop light.

[shootermcgavin003]

it doesnt feel good driving it. its like holding a ship wheel or some shit. its about as thick as a pencil.

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a better picture almost exactly like mine was stock cept have oem radio and the manual hvac

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2596/4381/31489690005_large.jpg

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and no black tape or pinetree :lol:

[theholycow]

Put on a cover, it'll go to normal thickness.

[shootermcgavin003]

i thought about that for the time being but i really just hate it. my clock is now gone though let me upload this shit just one

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/nekkidhillbilly/lesabre/IMG_20121214_180318_970.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/nekkidhillbilly/lesabre/IMG_20121214_180324_227.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/nekkidhillbilly/lesabre/IMG_20121206_144134_942.jpg

pics arent the best cell phone

[theholycow]

Is your satellite radio's suction cup mount jammed into the ash tray? That's how I used to roll.

[shootermcgavin003]

acually using the vent clip and clipped it on. works. mine was used so it was missing the suction cup.

[theholycow]

Didn't know they make a vent clip. It's been a few years...

[shootermcgavin003]

got the other panel on ebay. still got to get your speedo reducer off. truck has been down (again) so i havent had time to fuck with it. yeah mine had clips sticky pads and one with screw holes. in the truck it docks a controls through headunit. i had never used this shit.

[theholycow]

Mine only came with a suction cup mount, but the suction cup jammed tightly into my truck's ash tray and loosely into :gB:'s.

After the transmission project I removed the ash tray since it can't be used with the shifter there, and I put in a panel for switches/gauges/etc. As it stands there's just two switches and two holes pre-drilled for future switches, mostly a blank panel.
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv315/theh0lyc0w/ProjectChristinesloHackensteinberg/p_00121.jpg

Top switch is driving lights. Bottom switch is trunk popper...couldn't find a button so I flip the switch on-off quick. I'll be wiring that up to my OnStar mirror's buttons now that I have it.

I constantly come up with shit I want to use those switch spots for.
- If I get the driving/fog combo lights I previously described the two switches there now will be for those lights.
- I'd like to lower my idle and use a switch to operate the A/C high idle solenoid, which pushes the throttle open when A/C is engaged (except that I have it disconnected because I don't need it for A/C).
- A/C cancel switch so I can run the defroster without A/C or use "Max A/C" as a non-A/C recirc setting.
- A/C on switch so I can run A/C through the floor vents.
- The not-so-auto-dim mirror hack I've previously mentioned.
- HVAC blower fan cancel, since it runs whenever the ignition is on and sometimes I don't want it running.
- Dome override
- Accessory power with ignition off.
- Ignition kill switch.
- Anti-tailgating oil slick expulsion control. :trolljester:
- Maybe some kind of distributor advance adjustment.
- I can probably think of a million other cool things that I'll never do.

While digging through my notes for all of that I found another idea I had: A vacuum switch to turn off the A/C compressor under heavy throttle.

[shootermcgavin003]

my car has the oem button in glove box. i think im gonna put a gauge panel in place of my ashtray.

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and some 12v plugs too.

[theholycow]

I like where I put my 12v plugs but I see that it's not an option for you.

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I cut my panel from a computer case, painted it black, and added door edge protector material as trim.

[shootermcgavin003]

ill prob just mount mine and a gauge panel as one peice. as for the arm rest im gonna get a later (mid 90s) lesabre armrest that has cup holders

[theholycow]

:whoa: Will an armrest like that work? I've never considered it but maybe I should. I like my armrest but I wouldn't mind one with a storage compartment...if it was still suitably soft on top.

[shootermcgavin003]

i will have to measure them but i have seen it done in a 83 regal

[stonehenge]

Put one of these steering wheels on :cheeky:

http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/2005-ford-crown-victoria-4-door-sedan-standard-steering-wheel_100258337_m.jpg

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[shootermcgavin003]

no thats one thing i hate in the later cvs is that ugly ass steering wheel. the 05 ups are slightly better. slightly. the pre 96 had such a better wheel.

[BillyJeanKing]

that steering wheel makes me moist

[shootermcgavin003]

http://hooniverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Cars-for-Sale-1992-Ford-Crown-Victoria-LX-in-Hartsville-SC-29550-Sedan-Details-284105615-AutoTrader.com-Google-Chrome-9182011-82853-AM.bmp.jpg the 92 through 94 iirc
http://images.gtcarlot.com/pictures/61361636.jpg
05 up

like both better

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that said i find most air bag steering wheels ugly. actually gms dont look that bad and the brand new dodges are great looking.

[stonehenge]

I like mine and the 05+ but that old one is fugly

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[shootermcgavin003]

it is like that but they offered it in black leather like the stangs and trucks.

http://image.mustangandfords.com/f/34022235+w750+st0/mdmp_0701_07_z+1992_ford_SSP_mustang_LX+steering_w heel.jpg

[theholycow]

That wheel just doesn't look right for a Mustang.

[shootermcgavin003]

what they had for about 10 years

[stonehenge]

Still fugly

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[shootermcgavin003]

yeah i wouldnt choose any if i had a choice

[theholycow]

NHB, any news?
:stimpy:

[shootermcgavin003]

yeah i was actually going to tell you i havent been able to pull it do to the weather and the truck being down. supposed to be warm the weekend so im going to try and jerk it out then. you clock is still in a box at home ready to ship.

[theholycow]

:cheeky:

[shootermcgavin003]

sorry man the truck going to shit again killed all my free time last week

[theholycow]

No problem, I understand...been there done that!

[shootermcgavin003]

want to set truck on fire. nice extra 400 bucks in bills for me.

[shootermcgavin003]

Got snow so it be next week sorry

usin magic screen

[theholycow]

Been there done that, too.

[shootermcgavin003]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1977-Buick-Riviera-Base-Coupe-2-Door-5-7L-/160944374049?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2579084121

i dont like the way the car is fixed up at all but for some reason i like the insides. since my car is going to be white would it be good to do the insided similar to this.

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maybeye a flat white over the wood but leave all the chrome sections and black

[shootermcgavin003]

rick whats or addy. i got your parts.

[theholycow]

So the cable was a good fit and worked? :)

I GOT YER PARTS RIGHT HEA!
http://nomaas.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/russellmartin_Grab.jpg

PM sent.
:stimpy:

[stonehenge]

:lol:

[shootermcgavin003]

Idk not tried it engine is coming out next week. More powah time.

i r on my phone nekkid

[theholycow]

Box arrived!
:happeh:

[Manbearpig]

all them steering wheels be ugleh

[stonehenge]

all them steering wheels be ugleh except dis one

http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/2005-ford-crown-victoria-4-door-sedan-standard-steering-wheel_100258337_m.jpg

fixed fgt

[shootermcgavin003]

Good deal rick.

i r on my phone nekkid

[theholycow]

Transducer works and gauge housing looks like it's gonna work.
:happeh:
:moogusta:

[shootermcgavin003]

Glad to hear it. Ill have some more junk in the months ill sell if you need anything. Or we can swap etc...

i r on my phone nekkid

[shootermcgavin003]

got the engines home. ice really makes it hard to use a cherry picker.

[theholycow]

Replacing an engine in the winter?
:sweetbrown:

'round these parts, the cherry pickers are all mothballed for a few more months.

[shootermcgavin003]

oh i aint swapped yet just got the shit out of my trucks bed

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i wait till its above 40 before i perform a swap fts cold and all

[stonehenge]

were all Grand Nationals turbo V6s?

[shootermcgavin003]

yes all gn gnx and t types where

also the late 70s turbo super coupes where and the 88-89 fwd turbo lesabres.

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you did have hot air models which had no intercooler. the 86-87 had the intercoolers and is there desired years but they cost alot.

[stonehenge]

Saw one parked outside work earlier. So mash sexy. Idk what year. It had fender badges and was all black. Dude was in it so I didn't wanna creep too hard, hopefully he didn't see my boner.

Dfw GN

[theholycow]

I think anybody driving a GN is used to bonerstares.

[shootermcgavin003]

Saw one parked outside work earlier. So mash sexy. Idk what year. It had fender badges and was all black. Dude was in it so I didn't wanna creep too hard, hopefully he didn't see my boner.

Dfw GN

99% of the gns are black. they made a few silver ones very few and then they made the charcoal and gray ones in 82.

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t types came in any color

[BillyJeanKing]

http://i.imgur.com/SvW32IN.jpg

[theholycow]

:wwaanntt:

[stonehenge]

beast

[shootermcgavin003]

bad thing is thats a hot air car and has prob a 150 horse power good to build though.

[theholycow]

Speaking of hot air...turns out that when I brought my car to the professionals to handle the exhaust manifold bolts, they removed the shield so my intake's hot air pipe isn't getting hot air. It was probably rotted anyway. Any idea where I can get a replacement, and how I could hack it on without taking those bolts out?

Also: I have a Sunpro oil pressure gauge with electric sender. I went to install the sender and realized that it may not work. The space where the oil pressure switch is is small and buried in a hole between components, up against the frame. I don't think I can get tools in there. I don't think the sender would fit even if I could. Also if I replace the switch then I have to do something about the electric choke, which depends on the switch. I'd either have to find another signal that the engine is running, use a manual switch, or use a hose and tee to hook up both the switch and gauge sender. Is there anywhere else I can put the sender instead?

[shootermcgavin003]

the 350s get hot air through the heads i figured the 4.1 would be the same. also on a 350 its up on the right side toward the front. it has plenty of room to clear on it. it is under the alt and all on it. im not as familiar with a 4.1 but assumed they would be same thing really.

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http://www.vortexbuicks-etc.com/oil_pressure_senderoil_pressure.htm

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mfbp you avatar sucks less now

[theholycow]

Hot damn that's a clean and pretty engine. It's also got more clearance than I have. :blah:

[shootermcgavin003]

should be the same block as yours only reason he has more clearence his engine is on a stand

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as for the plate junker is the only thing else i know of or new replacement if there is one. i dont know if you need it really.

[theholycow]

You don't need the exhaust manifold shield/stove, but it helps with making the engine warm up faster so you get heat sooner in the winter (fucking New England), helps with driveability/fuel economy, etc. I was wondering why my fuel economy is lower...that means I'm paying for this missing part every day. I drive 80 miles per day, after all.

Found an alternate location for the oil pressure sender but I don't love it:
http://h-body.org/dave/Building%20the%20SFI%20Vega.htm
About halfway down that page it is described as "sender pick-up coming of the right galley plug in the back of the block" and photographed. It would require me to pull back the transmission and I think remove the flywheel to get access to that plug.

A further thought on using the existing oil pressure switch location: That fucker's probably seized in there badly and there may be serious carnage if I disturb it.

Oil filter sandwich adapters exist but are expensive. Drat.

[stonehenge]

Oil filter sandwich

:drool:

[shootermcgavin003]

shouldnt be since it gets hot and all rick should be easy to get out mine was. and for your heat passage do you not have any in the intake?

[theholycow]

The only part missing is the exhaust manifold shield that funnels heat into the hose that goes to the intake snorkel. The hose and snorkel are complete.

I couldn't get access to the OEM oil pressure switch with a camera but I took photos of stuff near the base of the oil filter that might work. Any thoughts on these bolts?

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-tGL1EHZCxIY/UaaN-8qs06I/AAAAAAAAHj8/qaPpjwOIPb8/s800/IMG_4484.JPG
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ADlm9U7WDdk/UaaN-jFepaI/AAAAAAAAHkI/zpL48hpxhtI/s800/IMG_4473.JPG